Mother Of Former Seal Killed In Benghazi: “Obama Murdered My Son.”

By Utah

Via Drudge and the San Deigo Union-Tribune:

A father and a mother used the word “murder.” A brother said he won’t second-guess decisions made in the heat of battle.

The families of three Americans killed in the Sept. 11 U.S. consulate attack in Benghazi, Libya, are offering widely different reactions to recent reports that U.S. personnel issued several requests for help that were turned down.

Patricia Smith, the mother of slain State Department employee Sean Patrick Smith, is now blaming President Barack Obama for her son’s death.

“I believe that Obama murdered my son,” she said Thursday from the living room of her Clairemont home. “I firmly believe this.”

Patricia Smith, who voted for Obama in 2008 at the insistence of her son, said reporting by Fox News is the basis for much of her belief that Obama is ultimately responsible for her son’s death. She said Sean, who went to Mission Bay High School but lived abroad, was a fervent supporter of the president.

Somehow I doubt that Patricia Smith will be draped with the mantle of “Absolute Moral Authority” that was accorded to Cindy Sheehan during the Bush years.

Note that the authors say that her feelings are based on “reporting by Fox News” as if that is a disqualification of fact…the truth is that if it weren’t for Catherine Herridge and Jennifer Griffin of Fox, this travesty would not get any attention at all. If these two don’t win a Pulitzer, the award is worthless.

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35 thoughts on “Mother Of Former Seal Killed In Benghazi: “Obama Murdered My Son.””

  1. Well, ring-a-ding-ding! She had to get it from Fox as they were the only ones reporting it! Somehow, I feel that it will be highly unlikely that Griffin attains any accolades which is bullcrap!

    B. posted that chart, and it was intersting to see how pertinent the story was. Believe it or not, many still are unaware of it. One word: Scary.

  2. Kells,

    Beck and The Blaze broke this story — several days before FOX picked it up. They STILL have the best handle on it, as well as why it happened and what it most likely means. Were these sources not routinely ignored by BOTH the Left and Right, then this story would be about 5 days further along.

    • I understand that a person is innocent until proven guilty. But you must understand that the Commander-In-Chief is updated constantly with the most secure intelligence of all, which is why he is the CIC.

      Did he somehow not receive the intel? I believe that to be highly unlikely.

    • @Warrioress,

      First, Obama rightly deserves the condemnation he is getting if for no other reason than he violated the public trust when he lied to the American people. He is also guilty of dereliction of duty. He swore and oath to defend the United States, and the consulate is U.S. property. He had the means and opportunity to defend and he deliberately chose not to do so. had a soldier done that, he/she would most likely face courts martial for it.

      Second, he IS guilty of treason, and we do not need a court of law to prove this. At this point, that is just a necessary formality — IF we are going to maintain the facade of the rule of law.

      It is now public record and in the Congressional record that Obama knew he was arming Al Qaeda rebels in Libya and now in Syria. Obama has not disputed these reports, therefore, we can assume they are factual. Al Qaeda is a declared enemy of the U.S., and an enemy with whom we are currently at war. The Constitution defines giving aid and comfort to our enemies as treason. Conclusion: Obama is guilty, and the presumption of innocence is not applicable when there is proof beyond reasonable doubt. At this point, that certainty is in evidence and all that remains is willful denial.

      Finally, as a Christian, you should be cautious about defending a man who went to the UN in defense of an Anti-Christ religion/political movement. There is nothing in scripture that commands you or I to do that, but there is admonishment that, should we FAIL to defend the name of Christ, He WILL NOT defend us before the father. Study Islam: it clearly rejects the Trinity and the Divinity of Christ. That makes it an Anti-Christ religion as well as commits the one unforgivable sin. Look into it, you’ll find I am speaking the truth.

    • @warrioress, I’m sorry, too, because I visited your blog and found a liberal concern troll masquerading as a Christian. Where are your condemnations for the lies Obama has told to the American people – the lies he has told about Mitt Romney?

      What is your position, as a Christian, on Obama’s support of gay marriage and abortion? You pray for Obama, do you pray for the souls of children aborted during his term and the future lives lost, paid for courtesy of Obamacare?

      Do you pray for the Catholics forced to break their faith in order to continue to provide care due to the same “healthcare” law?

      Where is your concern about a man of dubious religiosity (Obama) who presumes to display his obedience to God via words versus that of a man with demonstrated devotion to God (Romney) through his actions?

      Matthew 7:5 comes to mind: ‘Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.”

    • “I’m sorry, but I find this kind of behavior to be really sad and unjust” (along with “we are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law” as found on your silly hyperventilation rant).

      You preach that to the man accused by this administration (and remains in jail still) for the repulsive, yet marginalized video he posted?

      Didn’t think so. Your folks needed a scapegoat. They created one. I weep for you.

  4. Weep all you like, Augger. I’m afraid the majority of you commenting here will be explaining yourselves before the Lord one day and I hope He is as merciful as you are in your action and behaviors to another human being; I see nothing whatsoever Christian or Christ-like within your words, *at all.* What I do see is that you are Republicans first and foremost and have completely forgotten the message and words of Jesus Christ. Ahh. The ultra religious, holier-than-thou Pharisees come to mind…

    Have a lovely Sunday morning. I’m sure you’ll all be at church in full Christian attire, until you get back home, that is.

  5. “Notice that the Pharisees of Christ’s day did not directly rail against the Holy Spirit, they simply called Christ demon possessed. They were so blinded by their hatred that they refused to or were unable to see Christ’s Divine nature, but rather called that nature demonic. This is a solemn warning to all Christians and non-Christians alike. If a person is really speaking for Christ and doing his will and is filled with the Holy Spirit, and another calls that person ‘of the devil’, that person who accuses the REAL Christian is in far graver danger that most people really understand.

    Pointing fingers at others on the Internet has done so much damage to Christianity. People are always mocking Christians because we can never seem to agree about anything. We accuse, condemn, call names, utter anathema’s as though we all possess an apostolic anointing.

    We do not.

    More Evidence

    But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at naught thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother’s way. (Rom 14:10-13)”

    Source:
    http://www.markswatson.com/accuse.html

    • @warrioress:

      But aren’t you judging with your very comments?

      My prayers are for you, that you discover wisdom beyond your apparently young years.

      Your concerns about the “lies” told about Obama and the charges of murder are legitimate; however your temporal outrage indicates that you are ignorant of the slander and libel thrown at George W. Bush by “Christians” who disagreed with him politically – most of whom seemed to share the same brand of religiosity as you exhibit. Perhaps you are too young to remember – or maybe your particular brand of “Christianity” allows you to judge a Republican president while espousing that we should not judge a Democrat one.

      The concern that I have is your use of Christianity for the beatification of a particular political position rather than applying the same standard to both sides. Your blog and supposedly “Christian” position clearly is in support of Obama and none other and that kind of blind devotion for a human instead of Christ reminds me of another passage from Matthew – Chapter 7 verse 15:

      Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

      Obama spent 20 years listening to a racist anti-American pastor (Rev. Jeremiah Wright), whom he described as a mentor. On March 18, 2008, Obama gave a speech in which he said “I could no more disown Jeremiah Wright than I could disown my own grandmother” and “[Wright's church, Trinity United] embodies the black community in its entirety.” Now Obama tries to pretend that Jeremiah Wright doesn’t exist, and that his extremist anti-white philosophy didn’t influence Obama’s worldview.

      I am at peace with God and accepted Christ as my personal savior over 50 years ago. I have been subjected to trials that I know that I would not have been able to overcome without the guiding hand and protection of Christ and the Grace of a loving God and I trust that one of the gifts that I received from Christ through those trials was the ability to accumulate wisdom. That wisdom is why I fight and claw to preserve this country against those who would destroy it and its religious foundation. I do believe that God’s Grace is bestowed on us on an individual basis and as such is a contract between the individual and God. I do not attempt to judge that which is beyond my ability to judge and that includes anyone’s personal relationship with Christ. I have but their actions to compare to the teachings I have benefited from over a lifetime. When those two are at variance, I must logically conclude that one of them is wrong – I therefore believe that Obama is wrong and wrong for both America and the Christian people who constitute it.

      I see in Obama, a man whom you stated in your prayer “cares for the poor”, a man who donated precious little to charity while expropriating the treasure of others through government to pay for political patronage – in Mitt Romney, I see a man who gave 4 million dollars in one year of his own money to his church and charity. In Obama, I see a man who prosecutes the Godless, secular humanist ideology of communism, in Romney – a man who has lived a life in service to man, his church and God by using his personal material wealth to further the goals of Christ (I do believe that the Parable of the Talents in Matthew and Luke support the idea of being productive and earning money).

      Yet I wish Obama no personal ill will, my prayers are that he be kept safe and well – but I will work the skin from my fingers to see that he does not get another day in office beyond January 20th, 2013.

      The men who founded this country were devout and religious men. They established this country in alignment with the Judeo-Christian traditions and philosophies of religious men such as John Locke and Charles Montesquieu. Contemporary “liberal Christianity”, such as your site seems to espouse, must rise in opposition to those religious traditions to support a political figure such as Obama and an ideology such as liberalism. So much of the teachings of Christ and the specific Word of God as translated in the Holy Bible must be bent to the point of breaking to support this pop culture version of spirituality – which in my opinion is not Christianity at all, but a sort of religion-lite designed to allow performance of prohibited behaviors without a feeling of guilt or fear of retribution. “Catholics” who support abortion would be an example.

      I do not judge people on religious grounds but I do believe that your particular brand of selective and political spirituality is dangerous because it contradicts the tenets that our country was founded upon – one of us is wrong (I choose to side with the faith of the Founders rather than the trendy religion of the MTV age).

      I would caution you to pay heed your own words.

      May God’s Grace and the Peace of Jesus Christ go with you.

    • Warrioress,

      If you are going to put yourself forth in such manner, then why this screen name?

      Also, if you are going to tell us we are not to be discerning of the manner in which others conduct themselves, then you and the Apostles have a serious disagreement, especially the Apostle, Paul.

      If you are going to suggest that Islam has not slandered the Holy Spirit, you are wrong. Denial and rejection of the Holy Spirit is exactly what Christ was talking about when he told us this is the one unforgivable sin, and this is precisely what Islam does.

      Next, if you are going to tell me I am not to judge Obama by his actions, I will point you back to Paul and the Apostles. Christ said I am not to judge his heart or salvation, but there is nothing in scripture that tells me not to judge his actions. In this case, his actions support and defend Islam — NOT Christianity. In fact, he has mocked Christian Scripture in the past, and he keeps with a pastor who claims he helped Obama accept Christ without renouncing Islam. You cannot do that, they are antithetical beliefs. HOWEVER, you CAN hold on to Islam and see Christ as a prophet and sinless man because this is exactly what Muhammad and the Qur’an say He (Isa – Jesus) was.

      Finally, if you think Christ does not have a harsher side to Him, you did not pay attention to the Gospels. He was very harsh to the Pharisees, as well as the people in the Temple and to anyone who preached something opposite of what the FULNESS of Scripture teaches us. Look to prophesy: when Christ returns, He returns as a warrior and He will slay many, many sinful and rebellious enemies.

      Now, I am a fatally flawed sinner, and I make no contention to knowing or understanding the fullness of Scripture, but I do know that you are missing/ignoring great pieces of it — especially as it tells you to relate tot he world. Yes, we are to be humble and to serve, but we are not to submit to rulers who rebel against the teachings of God, nor are we to stand with them — especially when their actions suggest they are an enemy of Christ.

      I close by thanking you for the opportunity to discuss this in this manner. This nation was founded by a covenant with God, and by a faithful people, and the lack of that faith in society today — in my opinion — is largely responsible for the majority of our problems. It is refreshing and to see it return to our political discourse. It is also a welcome opportunity to be reminded that all of us — especially myself — need to reflect inward and check our own hearts and actions to make sure we are standing where we believe we should truly be standing. But, with that in mind, I feel Utah, Augger and myself are on solid ground. After all, it is as I say: this nation was founded on a dedication to God, and the man you are defending — in the name of Christ, no less — has openly stated he wanted to be President to “fundamentally change” that dedication. Now, you look inward and tell me which of us is standing in opposition to God???

      Yours in Christ, Joe

      • Because she believes in the Hollywood version of Christianity as displayed in the theatrical production of the Book of Eli, starring Denzel Washington and Mila Kunis – @warrioress effects the persona of Kunis’ character – somewhat unsurprisingly, Kunis is an unserious, left leaning liberal starlet and supports Obama as well.

        • Utah,

          I suspect you are correct. Sadly, I sense warrioress has a lot in common with another RNL reader and commentator. I just pray neither of them will fall under Christ’s condemnation in Matthew 7:21-23:


          21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

          I know that, the older I get, the harder I try to make sure I am doing everything I find in scripture and NOT picking and choosing what I want to follow and rejecting that which I dislike. Do I get it wrong? Oh, I am positive that I get more wrong than right. But is warrioress more right than we are? Doubtful, and for the very reasons you have already listed.

          Peace, and God bless, my friend. :-)

  6. Gentlemen, there is really no need to go to this extreme to argue and defend your positions with me; I’m not asking you to do it and don’t have time to debate any of you to the extent that you apparently have time to debate me.

    I could point out that candidate Romney is a MORMON, and that is not a Christian. If you’ve read anything at all about Mormanism, you should know that God does not consider it Christianity, nor will it save a man or woman’s soul. You’re supporting someone who doesn’t even believe Mary was a virgin. (this last is truth but it’s said tongue in cheek). This alleged “man of peace and prosperity” is anything but, speaking of wolves in sheep’s clothing. He is hardly the example of the godly man.

    Certainly I know that Jesus is no pantywaist; I never said He was. I merely asked you gentlemen to sit down with your New Testament portion of the bible and re-read Christ’s instructions to you about how you are deal with the leaders of government. You’re to pray for Obama and if you still dislike him and his behavior, turn him over to God — nowhere does it say in that bible that you are slander him mercilessly, and judge him guilty before he even has opportunity to go on trial and defend himself against whatever it is he is being charged with.

    You gentlemen know this is dirty, filthy politics perpetrated by desperate men, (yes, desperate Republican men). I am not too young to remember George W. Bush. I voted for him. You are also not to return in kind the outrageous behavior that was exhibited to him by the Democratic party when he was in office. When does it all stop? This is not Christianity. This is not even what we’re supposed to be focusing on as Christians. We’re supposed to be focusing on bringing men and women to Christ. What is Christ-like about these posts here on this blog? Would Jesus have written them? How did Jesus deal with the accusers of someone who had made errors? Jesus was Himself accused unjustly.

    Just think about it. I’m nobody to you all. I’m a little voice whispering (or maybe yelling) into your ears that you’ve gone astray and lost your love and ability to be like Christ; that’s is all; I know you can get it back. You’re obviously all quite intelligent, so think about it, please.

    Regards,

    Adrienne

    • I could point out that candidate Romney is a MORMON, and that is not a Christian.

      And you are supporting someone who claims to be Christian, yet who said his faith is Muslim in an interview with a reporter. That is NOT a mistake that a Christian would ever make. We also have Rev. Wright on record saying he helped Obama accept Christ without renouncing Islam. So, you are defending like kind, yet you point your fingers at us.

      You’re to pray for Obama and if you still dislike him and his behavior, turn him over to God — nowhere does it say in that bible that you are slander him mercilessly, and judge him guilty before he even has opportunity to go on trial and defend himself against whatever it is he is being charged with.

      I actually DO pray for him, and his safety. However, the Bible DOES tell us to judge a persons ACTIONS, and we have done so. based on the information available, and IN CONGRESSIONAL RECORDS, Obama is guilty of treason. He sold/gave weapons to Al Qaeda. If you will not face this reality, then you are denying truth. Something else Scripture admonishes us NOT to do.

      You gentlemen know this is dirty, filthy politics perpetrated by desperate men, (yes, desperate Republican men).

      So, after you JUST told us we are not to judge guilt without trial, you make a claim like that? Also, there is nothing “dirty” about speaking the truth. Warrioress, please attend to the plank in your eye. It is blinding you. You should also be careful of overlooking what Christ says about hypocrites.

      How did Jesus deal with the accusers of someone who had made errors?

      Have you actually read what Christ said to the Pharisees? Do you know how strong a language “you nest of vipers” was in Christ’s day? Do you forget that Christ said He came to set the world on fire, and to turn family member against family member? Do you remember WHY he said that? I’m beginning to wonder about your grasp and understanding of Scripture.

      you’ve gone astray and lost your love and ability to be like Christ; that’s is all;

      Perhaps, but I would tell you that everything you just said to us in this thread seems to apply to you at least equally as well — and that is by your own words.

      • Black3actual,

        I did not write the posting here that I stopped by to address; I’m here to discuss what you all have written. You want to discuss what I’ve written, stop by my blog, have a look, and we’ll chat about it.

        I’m rebutting the posting here about the president and the commentary you all made before I got here and since.

        • warrioress,

          Actually, yes, you are coming here to discuss it, and then you are trying to plead special case by claiming you are not coming here to discuss it. yet, here you are — discussing it…because this entire discussion has been about this post about Obama and the others like it on the RNL.

          Sorry, but that does not work.

    • Wow. Betrayed your true colors with that one – I never claimed that Romney was a Christian, what I said was that he served his fellow man, Christ and God but thank you for revealing your prejudice toward Mormons even as you chastise us for opposing Obama and protecting him with your rhetoric. You need to take an inventory of what you really believe because you appear to be a member of Obama’s cult of personality rather than a true Christian.

      I actually can’t say what Obama believes other than a strong devotion to humanism and government.

      I’ve seen little evidence that he has a personal relationship with Christ and that makes the assertions about him of agnosticism, atheism and even Islamism plausible.

      Believe what you will, it is inconsequential to me.

    • Perhaps when you stop spreading your lies about the Mormons. Have you read the Book of Mormon? No need to answer. It is obvious from your aforementioned comment that the answer is a solid no.

    • Warrioress,

      We didn’t say it, OBAMA DID:

      That is a Freudian slip. It was not a “misspeak” because a true Christian would not make that mistake. His slip is supported by Wright’s words — AND OBAMA’S DEEDS! Now, Muslim or no, it’s not for me to say. But he is certainly not a Christian by the standard you set for Romney. So your bias is showing loud, proud and clear. So is your hypocrisy.

      Oh, and one more thing: these are not lies. They are called objective reality, otherwise known as facts. Conclusions cannot be lies, either. At best, they are opinions, and anyone drawing an opinion from these facts that Obama favors Islam has an opinion well founded in the reality of the evidence available.

  8. Again, you have my blessing to vote for Gov. Romney if you so choose; I’m merely saying that you can no more say he is Christian and a godly man than you can say it about President Obama. Both men have their flaws and only God can know their hearts.

    As to President Obama’s beliefs, have a look here:

    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/21/to-some-obama-is-the-wrong-kind-of-christian/

    Remember gentlemen, you are not God. You don’t know Obama’s walk with Christ. You don’t know his heart. Claiming he is not a Christian just because you may hold different points of view on biblical doctrine is inappropriate and not Christ-like. I am not prejudiced against Mormanism in the least; i’m simply saying that it will not save one’s soul and it is not Christianity.

    There is only one way to the Father and that is through Jesus Christ our Lord, and the salvation of Jesus Christ.

    • Warrioress,

      I will let OBAMA tell me what he believes (see above). As for why you are dragging Romney’s faith into a post about Obama’s culpability in the deaths of 4 Americans and probable treason is a bit telling in and of itself.

      I think things were hitting a little too close to the truth about Obama for your comfort. If that convicts you, then look inward, but do not come here and attack a third Party who wasn’t even part of the post you purport to be addressing.

    • If I may make a point, since you claim that we have no right to ascertain Obama’s faith or lack thereof, how are we to recognize and battle Satan and the forces of darkness? It would seem that you are saying that we must accept everything at face value.

      Truth be known, I care little what he is or is not. What I care about is that this country is governed in a way consistent with our founding, which makes my disagreement with Obama political and philosophical, not religious.

      May I also inquire what exactly what transgression against God prompted your comments because I only see that you have taken umbrage to our “transgressions” against Obama?

      And again, I must ask – what of his support for abortion and homosexuality? Must you not ignore those to support him?

      • Utah, I take umbrage to your behavior as it relates to how we’re to act as Christian representatives here on earth, for Christ. There are people watching you gentlemen, including me! Some of you have been Christians longer than I have. You’re supposed to be setting an example for how Christ behaved while here on earth. The unbelieving watch you and if they see you acting hateful and unkind to the president in the name of God, what kind of example does that set for them? Why would they want to be Christians? It’s not about Obama, really; it’s about you, each one of you, and are you living up to what you call yourselves, even in the political arena when you get into it? You gentlemen are Christians FIRST.

        You can disagree with Obama, of course, and his policies, philosophies, etc., but you have to respect him as your president, even if you don’t like him, and you shouldn’t slander and accuse when he hasn’t even been tried legally.

        As for abortion and homosexuality… we’re not anyone’s judge and jury. We have to vote for one of these men and both support what we shouldn’t approve of — both support sin. One of these men is going to be president. We have no choice but to accept that we do not have truly godly men here to choose from. We just have to deal with it and make our best choice and attempt to change what we don’t agree with through our voices, like you’re doing now. Just do it with a little more of the fruits of the spirit in evidence, Utah; that’s all I’m asking.

    • Forgive the various links, but I’m using them to illustrate my point and because I believe they are well said and may help you men find the truth, or at least a semblance of it, I hope.

      Sorry, but the truth is found in the scripture. I do not need you or a link to “help me find it.” I found it because I read it — nearly every day. That’s why I know how far from the mark I am — and how I know that Obama is NOT what you claim him to be. I’m also beginning to wonder about you.

      As for the evidence of Obama’s Christianity: you are twisting reality if you are finding that. it simply doesn’t exist.

  10. Black3actual,

    I’m not coming even close to attempting to claim holier-than-thou status with you gentlemen. I know I have so far to go before I’ll be even close to what Jesus represents and how He acted. I’m pointing out something — that’s all. I’m asking you men to look at your behavior. You don’t have to listen to me. You can justify the behavior instead if you like. You can turn my words back onto me and go right on along behaving as you have been. The election is almost over, after all. Or…..

    You can attempt more Christ-like behavior from this point forward, as I’m doing. Certainly I fall short daily and often when I become passionate in these kinds of discussions, but this is how we learn, is it not? Look, I’ll focus upon my shortcomings and you all focus upon your own, as they relate to this topic. If I have a leg to stand upon in what I’ve said here, then please jus think about it, and if I don’t? Well, I’m sure you won’t even remember I was here tomorrow.

    • Warrioress,

      You are NOT being “more Christ like” if you are going to preach blatant hypocrisy to another Christian.

      You are NOT being “more Christ like” if you are going to judge the salvation of a man you do not know.

      Now are you being like Christ when you defend a man who has said he holds beliefs counter to the teachings of Christ.

      Nor when you defend a man who has belittled and mocked Scripture:

      And you are being ANTI-CHRIST when you defend a man who advocates abortion.

      You are being ANTI-CHRIST when you defend a man who passed laws that allow the BORN to be left in dark rooms to die.

      Your are ANTI-CHRIST when you defend a man advocating and defending homosexuality and the perversion of marriage.

      You are being ANTI-CHRIST when you defend a man who is advocating theft in your name.

      NO! You have no room to make any of the assertions or claims you have made. You are doing as much if not more damage to Christ’s name and Gospel with your words than we are by trying to get people to see the threat and vote according to what Christ actually teaches in His Gospel.

  11. Er… I don’t know how you have your comments set on this blog, but mine are not showing up in the order in which I’ve posted them. Oh well.

    I believe I’m finished here, and I thank you for allowing me to comment. You all can have the last word as I’ve said all I really care to at this point. May God bless each and every one of you and remove your self righteousness, anger, and resentment so that you can move forward as strong Christian men who are supposed to be in the world but not *of the world.*

    Please remember, gentlemen, the world IS watching us. And so is Jesus Christ. We are Christians first. We are not Democrats or Republicans first.

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