The Case for Secession

It would appear I have struck a chord with many out there in the blogosphere regarding my posts about secession. If I were to judge strictly by the comments I have received, I might think that the majority of people reading my posts are in a general agreement with the sentiment I am expressing. However, I spent the evening listening to other conservatives calling me a traitor and a coward for wanting to “take my ball and go home” – and those were among the more polite names they called me. Fair enough; I’ll accept that criticism. In return, I think I will attempt to actually make the case for secession.

First and foremost, I reject the unsupported assertion that secession necessarily means war. This is not the 1850’s, and we are not that people. I believe the case can be made for secession and that it doesn’t have to mean war – especially since studies have shown the U.S. military would be reluctant to follow orders to fire on peaceful citizens engaged in an effort to which many service members are actually sympathetic. So let’s stop with the scare tactics. If conservatives have been correct to argue against Leftist scare tactics, then they should not now resort to them when it suits their purpose.

Next, I believe a large part of what is bothering the “conservatives” to whom I was listening tonight is that their Party lost and now they are throwing a temper tantrum because the true constitutionalists among them are finally starting to leave the Republican Party – as they have been promising to do for some time. Well, these people have no one left to blame but themselves. We on the side of the constitution – as it was originally intended to operate – have been screaming at the Republican leadership to run and support true constitutionalist candidates for some time, but all we keep getting are Progressives. Now we have Boehner and Bill Krystal and the rest of the supposed “conservative” leadership advocating that we go along with Obama’s agenda because “elections have consequences.” Maybe so, but what I see in this advocacy or surrender is affirmation of Carrol Quigley’s assertion that we only have one Party pretending to be two. At this point, “Tragedy and Hope” seems to explain quite a lot of what we are seeing in the Republican Party.

That brings us to this idea of Party. Personally, I think too much has been vested in Party politics – to the point where it is now about the Party and no longer about the nation. Our politics have more in common with a college rivalry than with the actual governance of the nation or preservation of individual rights and liberty. We forgot Washington’s warning about Party politics and it is high time we do what we can to break the strangle hold it now has on our electorate.

Now, about this belief that “conservatism” is the ideology of our founding fathers: it isn’t. Modern American conservatism is based in the ideology of Edmund Burke, the man who once argued that there is nothing wrong with allowing a corporation to “own” and even “dispose of” as much as 1/3 of the known world’s human population because it had “legally purchased the rights to do so.” If you consider yourself to be a conservative, I ask you: does that sound like something in which you believe? If not, then I suggest that you have been duped by those touting the ideals of “conservatism.” You would be well served to actually look into what that means.

Finally, we have the Progressive movement. Here again, “conservatives” are as ignorant of the Republican Party’s past as they are of their driving ideology. The Progressive movement was started by Teddy Roosevelt when he was still a Republican. That means the Progressive movement was founded by a Republican! And the Rockefellers and other prominent Republican leaders of the time whose decedents Limbaugh refers to as Rockefeller or Country Club Blue Bloods were and still are Progressive! So again, I ask those of you who are claiming some allegiance to the notion of “conservatism,” how do you propose to out progressive a progressive by running light progressives against them? And if you doubt my assertion that the Republicans have been running Progressives against the Democrat Progressives, I would point to the policies of Romney. He was a good, decent man, but most of what he said he wanted to do wouldn’t have been much of a change from what Obama is already doing or said he wants to do. So, if they have the same policies and one is handing out candy while knee capping you when no one is looking, who do you think is going to win? And if your guy does win, what good does he do if he grows the deficit by $4 trillion, starts Medicare Part D, SCHIP, TARP bailouts and even bails out GM and Chrysler? Show me where Bush was any different than Obama.

The end result is that the two-Party system has failed the nation and the end result is that everyone in Washington has a vested interest in maintaining power. This infestation of our government apparatus even extends to the bureaucracies and civil servants. So, as long as this situation persists, we will never be able to wrest control from the people in power. Furthermore, the notion that we can use the vote to rectify this situation even if we can change the hearts and minds of the people is exposed as folly by this last election. So long as Congress is knowingly and intentionally funding organizations such as ACORN, known to be little more than a means of facilitating massive voter fraud, will we keep seeing voter fraud being ignored and – in some cases — protected by the DOJ as it has been in the case of the New Black Panthers. How does one defeat what is essentially a third world despotic system of government?

For too long now, the people in this nation who remain committed to the founding ideals and principles have begged their Party and national leaders to respect and protect their rights. For too long, we have had to do this from a position of minority status. And for too long, those rights and liberties have been trampled in the name of buying votes. Now, we have a dependency class that is nearing some 50% of the population. At the same time, the system of checks and balances which were designed to prevent this trampling of the minority have been dismantled and we have been intentionally pushed ever closer to direct democracy. This is to establish a tyranny of the majority, and then establish that majority by giving them property stolen from the minority.  The people doing it have found that, left unchecked, it is too easy to manipulated people by simply taking control our news media, entertainment media, schools, universities and government functions. Guess what? Those of us who call ourselves “conservatives” sure don’t control any of that. The net result here has been a “fundamental transformation” of the American character and culture, which is now being reflected in the “give me stuff” vote.

This is a situation from which one does not extricate themselves without the application of some form of force, and the most peaceful form of force available that would present a real opportunity to save what is left of the nation still wanting to return to original intent is to secede. I ask you, when was the last time you read the middle section of the Declaration of Independence: the list of grievances? Read them and ask yourself how many do not have a modern equivalent? Then ask yourself how many years we have been suffering peacefully while trying to work within the system to rectify these wrongs against our natural rights and liberty? Finally, ask yourself how much longer you are willing to wait in the face of mounting attacks on those rights and liberty?

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8 thoughts on “The Case for Secession

  1. What an Excellent summary of the situation Mr. Bakanovic !!

    I’m Sure you are aware of the Fabian Socialists from 19th Century England. They are the most direct ideological decendents of the American Progressives. Their early pamphlet Articles and meetings minutes read like the modern Am. Socialist party Platform and the rhetoric of the Political Left today….Eliz. Warren, Van Jones, V Jarrett etc……and all of them directly influenced by classic Marxism and Gramsci ( who of course influenced Cloward-Pivan ). Thus is the legacy of American Progressivism whether pushed from the Notheast Eliist Republican Families or their “Democratic” Bridge Partners in the Faculty lounges.

    I will continue to use the Moniker “Conservative” however. NOT in the Burkean fashion which you so well highlight…..but rather in recognition that labels are important to a certain segment of the population. However ac Constitutional Conservative who believes in the Original Intent of the Declaration and in the wording of the Constiturtion…..even to the extent of questioning the Constitutionality of the 16th and 17th Amendments…….Conservative as opposed to the Modern “Liberal Left” which in contrast describes the Constitution as a “living Document”

    I think these distinctions HAVE to be made…..they have to be articulated to the young and uninformed as well as to our OWN GOP leadership. And I am mindful of the ultimate Truth of which you wrote above.!!! But even at this point I still feel there IS a Difference between the GOP and the “JackAzz” party…..there is certainly more of a home to re-inject Originalist ideals and gather committments to those ideals within the GOP Base…….that opportunity has vanished in the Democrat Left. Our fight MUST continue to PRESSURE those leaders we Have ( Ryan, Rand Paul, Sessions, Cruz, Bachmann, Flake, DeMint etc) to NOT cave to the left’s goals during this LameDuck and during the 2 yrs leading to 2014……..and in that time a re-doubling of efforts ( Like the TP) to put Constitutional Originalists and yes True Conservatives in again, like 2010 ! We can then have a BASE of Originalists/Conservatives with which to build monentum further into the 2016 elections. At that point, if successful, the dismantleing of the Bureaucratic Agencies and their unconstitutional laws can begin in earnest.

    So Originalist-Conservative ( Liberty and Fiscal responsibility and strict adherence to Consitutional Law)….as opposed to Liberal Democrat ( Big Gov’t social programs and agency regulations used for laws)……the distinction has to continue to be made.

    • @Don Ameche:

      If there is one thing we are here at TNRL, it is anti-Marxist/”progressive”/socialist. For us it, isn’t about Democrats and Republicans, it is about individual freedom vs. totalitarianism and collectivism. Drop into our search bar on the right side and search for “fabian”, “frankfort school” or “frankfurt” and you will find some really good work by Joe on these evil folks and there’s even some of my lesser quality posts on the same subjects.

      Thank you for commenting and please keep reading us as we try, in some small way, to resurrect classical liberalism and to make some small difference.

    • Don,

      I’m Sure you are aware of the Fabian Socialists from 19th Century England. They are the most direct ideological decendents of the American Progressives. Their early pamphlet Articles and meetings minutes read like the modern Am. Socialist party Platform and the rhetoric of the Political Left today….Eliz. Warren, Van Jones, V Jarrett etc……and all of them directly influenced by classic Marxism and Gramsci ( who of course influenced Cloward-Pivan ). Thus is the legacy of American Progressivism whether pushed from the Notheast Eliist Republican Families or their “Democratic” Bridge Partners in the Faculty lounges.

      Yes, I am aware of this. I am also aware of the fact that the Fabian Society nurtured and birthed another activist who became known as Vladimir Lenin — you know, the guy who founded applied Communism ;-)

      I will continue to use the Moniker “Conservative” however. NOT in the Burkean fashion which you so well highlight…..but rather in recognition that labels are important to a certain segment of the population. However ac Constitutional Conservative who believes in the Original Intent of the Declaration and in the wording of the Constiturtion…..even to the extent of questioning the Constitutionality of the 16th and 17th Amendments…….Conservative as opposed to the Modern “Liberal Left” which in contrast describes the Constitution as a “living Document”

      I understand, but I would prefer to see us use an accurate term that does not lend itself to double meanings. The accurate term we should be using is either CLASSIC LIBERALISM or JEFFERSONIAN LIBERALISM. But I suppose that would then lend itself to being confused with the Liberal/Progressives, so I suppose we have ourselves a Catch-22. Maybe we should stick to calling ourselves TEA Party Patriots? :-)

    • @Ron Holland: I agree. There is a process but one unlikely to be successful. Look at the monumental challenge just to get a constitutional amendment through these days. The more workable answer is true federalism, not secession.

    • We MUST continue to hold up the mirror of their image and show ALL who they really ARE.

      They are DECEIVERS !

      They Misnamed themselves in order to defraud ALL Americans.

      They CONTINUE to LIE about America’s history and our Founding Fathers.

      And they have been attempting to BURY America’s Faith in G-d.

      When one confronts them with TRUTH, our most recent predecessors allowed them to be silenced with FALSE allegations of ‘ISM.

      No more. It is imperative all who seek TRUTH & JUSTICE & EQUALITY, learn, share, and refuse to be silenced.

  2. I agree with all here……esp. in regards to Original intent with respect to American Constitutional Liberty for Everyone.

    I do however believe we have to keep in mind the “raw material” we have to persuade……and I also beleive we DON’T have the time to educate along a Purist line ( purist NOT in the sense the Liberals and Republican Liberals like Ann Coulter are using the term of course)……We have to have Short and Long term goals…..and Short and Long term Successes……the TP 2010 elections would be an example of a Short-term success.

    As yet we really don’t have an identifiably LARGE Long-term plan. Talk Radio ala Rush, Beck and Savage (others also) have been opperating a sort of long term education process……..but we need one established in Education almost everywhere at once ( meaning Each State). I heard a poster on another blog from Rochester NY mention Bible education summer camps for Free that work well. He/She postulated that something similar which Educates our youth in True History, our Constitution and esp. their Rights given within it is what’s needed. This is an avenue the TP and like minded could start in almost every state, almost immediately. Perhaps with free lunches and such the Demographics of the Democrat Disaffected (discontented) could be reached early this way…..it’s an Idea. And one key Idea taught should be that Liberty of personal choice is tied to BOTH freedom from Gov’t intrusion AND control of one’s finances……that “fairness” is in fact best embodied in the Constitution protection of those Liberties.

    BUT….we have to have those short-term Successes also, or America will end up like all economies that fail……the ONLY powers that pick up the Pieces are the likes of Chavez etc……so the argument has to be done within the Arena we have, not the ideal one we would like. At this point we have to USE the polarization of terms to our advantage and not tell the opposition (or insinuate ) that we TOO are really Liberals, Classical or otherwise……simply put, The American Populace today WILL NOT be able to see the distinction….conservatism has already been named and in our favor they ALSO will not know of the Burkean reference…….But Tea Party Conservative…..Constitutional Conservative…..

    TEXAS95 above said….”.When one confronts them with TRUTH, our most recent predecessors allowed them to be silenced with FALSE allegations of ‘ISM.

    No more. It is imperative all who seek TRUTH & JUSTICE & EQUALITY, learn, share, and refuse to be silenced.”

    Words to Live and Plan and Fight by !!

    @ Utah……Walter Benjamin would be understanding of our world indeed.

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