Karl,
Yes, this post is directed directly at you and your claim that natural law does not exist. I have tried to explain this to you: you can subvert the natural order of this universe for short periods of time, but it is the fool who allows this ability to subvert natural law to convince him that he has control over that law. Or worse, that the ability to subvert natural law somehow ‘proves’ that there is no natural law. I have tried to tell you that, sooner or later, natural law will assert itself and your subversion will crash. And here is the proof:
Cyprus set to seize personal savings…
Plan moves ahead as vote delayed…
Putin: ‘Unfair,’ ‘Dangerous’…
FT: Here come bank runs…
Germany: Not our idea…
Italy to follow?
Markets rattled…
Euro tumbles…
Dow drops…
LIVE…
What those stories represent is natural law asserting its supremacy. In this case, the lesson is that you cannot just spend money you do not have forever and not suffer the consequences.
Karl, THIS is the inevitable result of your ideas. This is how they end – every time! But then, you believe this is necessary before Communism will finally come to be. The only problem is that this never happens because the situation that is created by these collapses is the open door to tyranny — and tyranny is the only thing missing at this point to make this the latest in the historic pattern of the failure that is Statism. But not to worry, the tyranny is coming — just wait, you’ll see.
[And the good news is, the U.S. is never far behind Europe because the self-appointed elite in this nation suffer from the same mental derangement as those in Europe; only here, it is confounded by an obsessive need to be accepted by the deranged in Europe.]

Joe please do research, the president of Cyprus before Febraury 17 election was the communist AKEL(progressive party of working people) party member Demetris Christofias. In the election Nicos Anastasiades of the centre-right christian party Democratic Rally, won the election. You lack a complete understanding of Marxism. Are the anti-austerity leftist-led protest in Europe, assertions of natural law. If natural law is so real, how come the North Koreans haven’t risen up and overthrown Kin Jong Un? Or will that “eventually” happen? If natural law is such a real force in history, where are the massive tea-party rallies, after Obama increased taxes?
Karl,
I understand Communism better than you do. I also understand the point I made better than you do.
This is the problem you struggle with: the SANE can understand the insane, but the insane cannot understand the sane. The one who denies objective reality is the one who is insane. You do not understand or even recognize objective reality.
Joe, sounds like Karl just admitted that the people of Cyprus rose up and voted the Communists out. An action that was too late and not enough to prevent the confiscation of their bank accounts. the bill for their excess has come due.
Triper,
Actually, Karl called attention to the reality of Communist evolution. Instead of seeing the “righteousness” of Communism, the people see the evil that it is and try to break away, only to have their supposedly benevolent masters react by cracking down on them when they do.
But then, I think Karl probably missed the fact that these people had their money taken WITHOUT REPRESENTATION OR DUE PROCESS!
Karl doesn’t think representation or due process is needed in a just, and therefore, communist society. The state will take care of these people. They don’t need their savings. Right, Karl?
What it is REALLY all about is …. KARL needs/wants their savings.