Why Islam can NEVER Undergo a “Reformation” (and more)

This should not be necessary, especially for those who have followed my posts for any length of time, but I know that I have to say it anyway – and still there will be people who will refuse to accept my words. I do not fear or hate Muslims! Period! End of story: no ‘ifs,’ ‘no ‘explanations,’ no ‘equivocation.’ As a Christian, I happen to believe Muslims are the same as any of us: on a human level, we are all the same. I believe this personally, and because the Bible tells us this is so. However, I also believe Muslims have been deceived, just as many who call themselves Christians have been deceived. But I do not mean deceived in the same way. A person who thinks they are Christian but is following a heretical perversion of Christianity has been deceived by someone who has twisted Scripture, but all Muslims are following a perversion of Scripture. This is the primary problem that most of us in the West do not understand and refuse to accept. In fact, too many of us refuse to even listen so that we might come to understand the true nature of this problem. However, if you will listen now and give me the time I need, I will try to explain it as best I can.

 

Islam is not and cannot be considered ‘equivalent’ to the other major religions because its fundamental flaws are not the result of ‘bad interpretation,’ they are the result of doctrine. It is not that the text or spirit of what is in the Qur’an are ‘misinterpreted’ by those we have labeled ‘radical’ Muslims – thought this does happen – it is that the text fundamentally teaches exactly what those we call ‘radical’ are doing. Killing non-believers is commanded, and not just ‘in times of war’ as Muslim apologists would have us in the West believe. The Bible does not teach anything equivalent to this. In fact, it teaches the opposite. Christ, Himself, commanded His followers to preach the Gospel, but if anyone refuses to accept it, to just leave them to Him. Christ did not tell His disciples to cut off their heads, the Qur’an does.

But the Qur’an is not the only important holy book of Islam. You must also read the Hadith, or Sunna. This is a record of the sayings and deeds of Muhammad, and Muslims are commanded by the Qur’an to refer to this record to resolve any dispute they may have regarding their faith (Qur’an 4:59). Muhammad is considered to be the perfect man, and anyone who denies his words or deeds is denying he is ‘the’ prophet, which is the same as denying Allah. IN essence, the Hadith is the equivalent of the New Testament: it is the ‘instruction manual’ for the Qur’an: it explains what the Qur’an means and how to follow it. It is equal to the Qur’an as to deny it would be the same as a Christian denying the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.

 

At this point, we need to understand that the teaching of Islam is a negation of the Bible. This is important because Muslims will tell you they worship the same God as Abraham and Moses – but they do not! It is impossible for Allah to be “I am.” If you understand this phrase and the depth of what it means – how much it includes – then you understand that the God of the Bible is constant: He does not change His mind or character/nature. But this is exactly what Muslims claim: that God suddenly changed His mind about everything and told His new plans only to Muhammad. For this to be true, then the God of the Bible could not be “I am.” If we wanted, we could go into some depth about God’s promises and the prophecy in the Bible. These are part of how we know God is real and that He keeps His promises. But for Islam to be true, all of the Bible would have to be negated – all of it.

 

Muslims try to get around this by claiming the Bible was ‘perverted’ by man, and that it does not represent the true word of God. The problem here is that they claim the Biblical prophets – including Jesus – and we have many ancient texts which contain the words of these prophets that show the books of the Bible are much older than first thought, and are surprisingly consistent across the archeological timelines. The same cannot be said about the Qur’an. In fact, the earliest known copies of the Qur’an differ greatly. Perhaps it is because these differences are known that ‘outsiders’ are not allowed to study these early tests: for fear that Islam will be shown to have been the work of one man – Muhammad?

 

Now, let us go back to the Qur’an and Hadith, and back to the sayings and deeds of Muhammad. You will find that Muhammad said and practiced the taking of ‘booty’ by the sword; that he taught Muslims to lie to and/or trick non-believers; that he taught the murder of infidels – Jews especially (Muhammad massacred the Jews at Banu Qurayza, and that makes it a doctrinal command for Muslims to follow this example just as it is Christian doctrine that all of Christ’s followers love and pray for their enemies); Muhammad taught Muslims to make peace treaties until they could gather enough strength to defeat their enemies, then to break those treaties for this purpose (this is part of what happened at Banu Qurayza, and Muhammad did it, so this is a doctrinal practice of Islam, as well); Muhammad practiced and commanded jihad, and said that it was the surest way to heaven – even that jihadi warriors are exempt from most Islamic restrictions while in the act of jihad (now you know why the 9/11 attackers were allowed to drink and visit prostitutes). This and much more is all in the Hadith.

 

Now, about the notion that there are ‘good’ Muslims and ‘radical’ Muslims: the simple answer is NO! At least, not by a doctrinal understanding. Yes, there are good people in Islam who only want to live in peace and raise their families. I keep saying this, but no one wants to listen. The same is true about Christians, only in reverse: there are evil people who call themselves Christian. But the issue is not the people, it is about the teaching that is actually in the holy books of the several major religions. This is where most Westerners get lost, and for the same reason most Muslims get lost: neither bother to actually read the books – not even Christians (hold on to that, we’ll come back to it shortly). In addition, we in the West do not understand the legitimate interpretational disputes inside Islam, and this is where the issue of jihad gets confusing for most of us.

 

Islamic prophecy is as important to understanding Islam as it is to Christianity, and it is a mirror opposite of Biblical prophecy. The Islamic messiah is the spitting image of the Biblical Anti-Christ. Shi’a Muslims refer to their messiah – or Mhadi – as Sahib Al-Zaman, or “The Lord of the Age.” But in II Cor 4:4, this is the exact name the Bible uses for Satan. (Several of the ’99 beautiful names of Allah’ are exact matches to Biblical names for Satan) Now, just as Christians fight over whether there will be a pre-, mid- or post-tribulation rapture, Muslims fight over when to start the global jihad commanded by their scriptures. Yes, Islamic scripture does command global jihad to either convert or kill all non-believers to Islam (Islam means ‘submit’). The two major factions within Islam just differ over when and who can order this global jihad. According to orthodox Muslim jurisprudence, only a sitting Caliph has the authority to declare global jihad, but others disagree. But there are others who disagree. Some of them actually believe they can help bring about the Mhadi’s return by causing chaos by waging global jihad now – with or without the Caliph (now you understand the urgency of the Muslim Brotherhood’s efforts to reconstruct the Caliphate currently underway in the Middle East). It isn’t that global jihad is a ‘bad interpretation’ of Islamic teaching because it is there, the ‘interpretation’ is over who can declare it and when. As soon as there is a sitting Caliph again and he says GO! Then even Muslims the West considers ‘moderate’ – like Dr. Zuhdi Jasser – will be running around with their swords forcing people to submit or die. THIS IS WHAT THE WEST DOES NOT UNDERSTAND AND REFUSES TO SEE! This is also why the PC term of ‘radical’ Muslim is meaningless, only Westerners are too ignorant to understand.

 

Now, go back to when I said to hold on the fact that people do not read their Bibles or Qur’ans. The Christian reformation came about because men had seized control over the Church and corrupted it for purposes of their own power and wealth. This was not a failing of biblical teaching; it was a failing of men. So, when the Protestant movement started, it included the demand that people start reading for themselves. This is why literacy rates soared during the Protestant Reformation: because it was necessary to the movement that every person read the Bible for himself/herself so they could develop a personal relationship with God. THERE IS NO SUCH REFORMATION POSSIBLE WITH ISLAM! The West keeps calling for Muslims to have a similar reformation, but as I hope I have just shown, this is not possible – not without totally re-writing the Qur’an and throwing away the Hadith, in which case, whatever he have left would not be Islam. This is what I cannot seem to get through to those who read my posts: in order to ‘reform’ Islam, you have to deny its claim to be the revealed word of God – you have to destroy it to save it. Imagine telling Christians they have to throw away the resurrection and totally re-write the New Testament to ‘save’ Christianity. Good luck with that one. For this same reason, it will never happen with Islam.

 

The rest of what I have continually tried to explain follows from this. What I refer to as ‘stealth’ jihad is real, but Muslims call it by different names. If you prefer, think of it as ‘political’ and ‘public relations’ jihad. What matters is that the Western world understands that Islam can and does lie to protect itself – especially when it perceives it is weak compared to its adversaries. Muslim leaders can and do tell Westerners one thing and then say the exact opposite when talking to other Muslims. I have not lied about Islam because I do not have to. I have read their books. I just wish I could get America to wake up to the fact that Islam is NOT what we tell ourselves it is (nor what the jihadists tell you, either).

 

I hope this helped. I hope even more that it will motivate you to learn more on your own. There is so much more that America needs to understand, like the fact that Islamic govt. (the Caliphate), Islamic law (Sharia), and the Islamic religion are all one: they are made one by the Hadith.  But if you still do not wish to understand and accept what I am saying as the truth, no worries: just ignore my posts about Islam in the future because I will not change my position – not when I know I am correct.

 

ADDENDUM:

 

I wasn’t going to bother with this when I originally wrote this post because it was already going to be long enough, but given the exchange in the comments section, I suppose a little history about the creation and evolution of Islam may be in order as it may help clarify some of the ‘sticking points’ of the debate over Islam.

 

Tradition holds that Muhammad was born in Mecca in 570 A.D. It is generally accepted that he became an epileptic and subject to epileptic fits while he was still a child, after having become an orphan.  Muhammad first set out to try to convince the Jews that he was a modern prophet.   The Jews rejected him.  Then he went to the Christians with the same story and they rejected him.  Finally, while sitting alone in a cave, he encountered what he first said was a jihn (demon) that tried to choke him.  After several such encounters, he then claimed it was the ‘arch angel’ Gabriel.  Muhammad never recorded his revelations (the Qur’an says he was illiterate).  They were transmitted by ‘reciters’ who memorized what he told them.  The Qur’an was not written until some 100 or so years after Muhammad had died, and after having lost more than 450 of Islam’s ‘reciters.’  The same applies to the majority of the Hadith, with a great deal of this work coming from Muhammad’s youngest of 12 wives (she was 6 when he married her, 9 when they consummated their marriage.  Muhammad claimed that Gabriel only came to him when he was in his youngest wife’s bed)

 

Early on, Muhammad’s new religion had difficulty attracting followers.  For many years, he had only about 1,000 disciples.  It wasn’t until after he started to raid the trade routes and allow his followers to keep 4/5 of whatever ‘booty’ they captured that his following started to grow.  Soon after, he had more than 10,000 followers.  Muhammad personally led some 27 of these raids and planned and sent out under other leaders is believed to have been thirty eight.  Tradition claims that in his last speech to his followers, Muhammad said:

 

…..”I descended by Allah with the sword in my hand, and my wealth will come from the shadow of my sword.  And the one who will disagree with me will be humiliated and persecuted.”

 

It was after this conversion to violence that things started to change in his ‘revelations.’  The earliest verses of the Qur’an, or earliest revelations are those that are most charitable toward ‘the people of the book’ (i.e. Jews and Christians).  As Muhammad grew older, he grew more violent toward Jews and Christians and the verses change.  It is Islamic doctrine that these later verses supersede the earlier verses.  Muhammad’s anger with the Jews is what led him to change the Muslim sabbath to Friday, the busiest business day of the Jewish week as it is the day before the Jewish Sabbath.   This leads to another issue with the Qur’an and Hadith that a non-Muslim is not likely to even know about: that those seemingly peaceful verses are often superseded by the more violent ones that cause so much trouble.

55 thoughts on “Why Islam can NEVER Undergo a “Reformation” (and more)

  1. This is all very familiar… : )

    What is a civilization?

    What is a culture?

    Why do the followers of Islam not create their own “place” in the world from which to grow intellectually & technically, and self govern???

    Somehow, they never “build” like all other great civilizations do. Roads, bridges, hospitals, theatres, etc. Only mosques.

    They destroy others great achievements instead.

  2. You fail to mention in your post (which, by the way, I appreciate the break-up of paragraphs – made it seem shorter) what ther Muslims have done here locally and elsewhere.

    I enjoyed your article, B. I just wish you would view both sides…..

    • Your pro-Islam bias here prevents you from seeing that I am actually very sympathetic to the Muslim position here (I am not saying favorable to it, I am using sympathetic in the philosophical sense). I think those who try to ‘force’ Islam to ‘reform’ are the ones who are actually being ‘insensitive’ (as I think I explained in my post).

      That said, you must understand that I did not address ‘the other side’ because it is irrelevant to the issue. Which ‘side’ would you have me address, Hinduism? Buddhism? Mysticism? Atheism?

        • Your comments noted. Tou are sympathictic towards Islam.
          I d o not care Islam is the best religion, you are homophobic along being Islamaphobic.
          Your mind is clouded by hate and bigotary. No one is getting hurt in USA, so go to the pub ans one on me.
          After many years of dictatorship (promoted and financed by the werst) are free.
          They need about 5 yrs pr more to settle down.
          American democracy is still settling down after over 200 yrs.

  3. This blog is completely biased and not based on TRUTH.
    Islam preaches peace at every step.
    There are over 1.5 BILLION muslims , they taught the world that its round.
    They are the best of the believers.
    Look at the bible its the most violent teaching ever produced..
    Quaran does not teach violence

    • Actually, you are correct: the Qur’an doesn’t teach violence – it commands it. I should think this a crucial difference. Also, it is easy to prove that I am truthful by simply reading the Qur’an and Hadith. Just look at Islamic prophecy and you’ll find all the proof you need that I am telling the truth about what is in the actual words of these books.

      Let me ask you: did Muhammad kill the Jews at Banu Qurayza? Yes or no?

      And does the Qur’an tell you to that Muhammad is the best authority as to how to interpret the Qur’an? Yes or no?

      The answer to both is either yes, in which case you confirm everything I am saying, or no, in which case Muhammad is not the prophet and Islam is a lie.

      So, what are the answers: yes or no?

      • The usual trap, good job,I am not falling for it.

        The Jews in Banu Qurayza? because Muslims were not allowed to go to Mecca \.
        Read the Bible and learn violence.
        Remember the Inquisition Christains killed, raped, burnt tortured over 95 million people, nearly half of Europe was cleaned out. Along with the Crusades which further killed everyone in Europe enroute to Jerusalem.
        Christainity did not have a very holy history.
        Islam is the religion of peace no such bad history.

        • You point out what I have been trying to convey: There are distortions and misinterpretations in every religion. I feel at this point in time it is obviously resounding in the Middle East and unfortunately, carries over to other parts of the world.

          You mustn’t say that Islam has no bad history. Every religion does.

        • There is nothing to ‘fall for.” If I ask a Christian “Did Christ rise from the dead” and he says no, then Jesus was not the Christ and that person’s faith is destroyed. Same principle here. They are simple questions and they follow Islamic teaching. You are refusing to answer because you know that, when you do, you will make my case for even the deafest listener.

          Now answer my 2 questions with yes or no.

            • No, I don’t think so. Either answer my questions yes or no, or show me in the Qur’an where I am wrong.

              Otherwise, let the reader understand that you have been caught in a trap set by the Qur’an and Hadith themselves – a trap for which the faithful Muslim has no answer for but to admit I am correct or deny Muhammad and Allah..

        • Peace? You will find no equivalent commands in the Bibkle as these:

          “Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah. Those who follow him are merciful to one another, but ruthless to unbelievers” Surah 48:29.

          “Kill the Mushrikun (unbelievers) wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush…” Surah 9:5

          “Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture (Christians & Jews) as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.” Surah 9:29

          “Therefore, WHEN YOU MEET THE UNBELIEVERS, SMITE AT THEIR NECKS; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens. Thus (are ye commanded): but if it had been Allah’s Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their deeds be lost.” Surah 47:4

          Or these:

          – Truly, god loves those who fight

          – Fight and slay the pagans wherever you find them,
          and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for
          them in every stratagem.

          – Chop off their hands and chop off their fingertips

          – When you meet the unbelievers, chop off their
          heads

          – Fight and slay those who don’t convert wherever
          you find them

          – Believers, take neither Jew nor Christians for your
          friends

          – Those who follow Muhammad are ruthless to
          unbelievers

          – Those who reject Islam are “the vilest of creatures”
          and thus deserve no mercy

          – Fight them until Islam reigns supreme (throughout
          the world)

          I believe there are over 100 verses in the Qur’an about spreading Islam through violence and some 123 that mention killing and fighting in this context. I’m sure you will tell me these only refer to times of war, but this is not what they say when read in context. heck, some of these passages come from chapters about feasts, celebrations and other such subjects that have nothing to do with war. The fact remains that 1 in every 55 verses of the Qur’an deals with the spread of Islam through force.

          Also, didn’t Muhammad connect true faith to belief in the end times? And doesn’t Islamic prophecy state that the end times will include the forced conversion or beheading of everyone on earth? You won’t find that in the Bible, either – only a defense of Israel.

          • Islam mainly advises to kill the non believers.
            CXhristains and Jews are believers in one God and were always taken good care of.
            Your reasoning and blog is so far from the truth that thee is nothing further to say.
            Islam is an great religion, do not cherry pick verses,.
            Quarn is the holiest of all holy books respect it or sit tight at home.
            Bible is the most violent book ever compiled by man to serve the whims and fancies of the Church and the Vatican.

            • So you are calling Muhammad a liar now? Didn’t Muhammad say that the Old Testament is truth, and was sent down to give guidance and comfort? I can quote that passage of the Qur’an for you if you’d like. Actually, I can quote quite a few that say the same thing. I can even quote passages where Muhammad says for the MUSLIM to obey the Bible or he has no grounds upon which to stand.

              Or would you like me to quote the passages of the Qur’an that admit Christ was born of a virgin and that He is the Messiah? I can do that, too.

              I find it odd that I find Muhammad calling the Bible goodness and light and you tell me the Bible is evil and violent.

              Then again, I can turn around and show you where Muhammad says to kill those of ‘the Book’ (i.e. Bible) and to wage war against them until they submit.

              Or I can show you where Islamic prophecy is based on the eradication of the Jews, if you’d like.

            • I would have expected nothing less from you, Kells. Just like I knew you wouldn’t see anything in Uzoozy’s refusal to answer my questions, or that no one has refuted that the things I say are actually in the Qur’an, only that I have ‘interpreted’ them incorrectly.

  4. NOTE TO THE READER:

    If you follow the RNL, no doubt you have seen how those on the Left make claims they cannot support, and when called on them, they revert to attacks of their own, or insults or outright refusal to answer the challenge.

    Well, what Uzoozy is demonstrating is the Muslim version of this pattern. I asked 2 simple questions and received an insult and an attack on the Bible in return. Then when I pressed him to answer these two simple questions, he told be to “take a hike.”

    If this is considered to be a pattern indicative of someone who has been caught advocating the indefensible in American politics, then why shouldn’t the same pattern indicate a problem when dealing with a religion – especially a religion that is also a legal system and form of government?

    Hard as it may be for many to accept, I am not taking any pleasure from this discussion. Nor do I wish to attack or insult Muslims. I am simply trying to explain to people what is actually in the Qur’an. I meant what I said from the start of this blog: as a Christian, I feel for Muslims because I believe they have been led astray. I understand they hold the exact opposite belief, but the problem from a religious perspective is that the Bible predates Muhammad by some 1,500+ years (most likely a great deal more, as recent discoveries are suggesting the records of several books from the Bible actually go back much farther than believed only a few years ago). But this would be a topic for another debate, a debate I do not feel is suited to the RNL’s theme as it would primarily involve Biblical/Islamic scriptural citations and Biblical/Islamic prophecy.

    In truth, what Uzoozy has done is demonstrate that I have told the truth. had I not done so, he would have answered me “yes or no,” or he would have provided the passages of the Qur’an necessary to show me my error.

  5. this is surah 48.29 which is as follows:

    ional: Indeed, We have given you, [O Muhammad], a clear conquest

    048.002

    Sahih International: That Allah may forgive for you what preceded of your sin and what will follow and complete His favor upon you and guide you to a straight path

    048.003

    Sahih International: And [that] Allah may aid you with a mighty victory.

    048.004

    Sahih International: It is He who sent down tranquility into the hearts of the believers that they would increase in faith along with their [present] faith. And to Allah belong the soldiers of the heavens and the earth, and ever is Allah Knowing and Wise.

    048.005

    Sahih International: [And] that He may admit the believing men and the believing women to gardens beneath which rivers flow to abide therein eternally and remove from them their misdeeds – and ever is that, in the sight of Allah, a great attainment –

    048.006

    Sahih International: And [that] He may punish the hypocrite men and hypocrite women, and the polytheist men and polytheist women – those who assume about Allah an assumption of evil nature. Upon them is a misfortune of evil nature; and Allah has become angry with them and has cursed them and prepared for them Hell, and evil it is as a destination.

    048.007

    Sahih International: And to Allah belong the soldiers of the heavens and the earth. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise.

    048.008

    Sahih International: Indeed, We have sent you as a witness and a bringer of good tidings and a warner

    048.009

    Sahih International: That you [people] may believe in Allah and His Messenger and honor him and respect the Prophet and exalt Allah morning and afternoon.

    048.010

    Sahih International: Indeed, those who pledge allegiance to you, [O Muhammad] – they are actually pledging allegiance to Allah. The hand of Allah is over their hands. So he who breaks his word only breaks it to the detriment of himself. And he who fulfills that which he has promised Allah – He will give him a great reward.

    048.011

    Sahih International: Those who remained behind of the Bedouins will say to you, “Our properties and our families occupied us, so ask forgiveness for us.” They say with their tongues what is not within their hearts. Say, “Then who could prevent Allah at all if He intended for you harm or intended for you benefit? Rather, ever is Allah, with what you do, Acquainted.

    048.012

    Sahih International: But you thought that the Messenger and the believers would never return to their families, ever, and that was made pleasing in your hearts. And you assumed an assumption of evil and became a people ruined.”

    048.013

    Sahih International: And whoever has not believed in Allah and His Messenger – then indeed, We have prepared for the disbelievers a Blaze.

    048.014

    Sahih International: And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth. He forgives whom He wills and punishes whom He wills. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.

    048.015

    Sahih International: Those who remained behind will say when you set out toward the war booty to take it, “Let us follow you.” They wish to change the words of Allah. Say, “Never will you follow us. Thus did Allah say before.” So they will say, “Rather, you envy us.” But [in fact] they were not understanding except a little.

    048.016

    Sahih International: Say to those who remained behind of the Bedouins, “You will be called to [face] a people of great military might; you may fight them, or they will submit. So if you obey, Allah will give you a good reward; but if you turn away as you turned away before, He will punish you with a painful punishment.”

    048.017

    Sahih International: There is not upon the blind any guilt or upon the lame any guilt or upon the ill any guilt [for remaining behind]. And whoever obeys Allah and His Messenger – He will admit him to gardens beneath which rivers flow; but whoever turns away – He will punish him with a painful punishment.

    048.018

    Sahih International: Certainly was Allah pleased with the believers when they pledged allegiance to you, [O Muhammad], under the tree, and He knew what was in their hearts, so He sent down tranquility upon them and rewarded them with an imminent conquest

    048.019

    Sahih International: And much war booty which they will take. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise.

    048.020

    Sahih International: Allah has promised you much booty that you will take [in the future] and has hastened for you this [victory] and withheld the hands of people from you – that it may be a sign for the believers and [that] He may guide you to a straight path.

    048.021

    Sahih International: And [He promises] other [victories] that you were [so far] unable to [realize] which Allah has already encompassed. And ever is Allah, over all things, competent.

    048.022

    Sahih International: And if those [Makkans] who disbelieve had fought you, they would have turned their backs [in flight]. Then they would not find a protector or a helper.

    048.023

    Sahih International: [This is] the established way of Allah which has occurred before. And never will you find in the way of Allah any change.

    048.024

    Sahih International: And it is He who withheld their hands from you and your hands from them within [the area of] Makkah after He caused you to overcome them. And ever is Allah of what you do, Seeing.

    048.025

    Sahih International: They are the ones who disbelieved and obstructed you from al-Masjid al-Haram while the offering was prevented from reaching its place of sacrifice. And if not for believing men and believing women whom you did not know – that you might trample them and there would befall you because of them dishonor without [your] knowledge – [you would have been permitted to enter Makkah]. [This was so] that Allah might admit to His mercy whom He willed. If they had been apart [from them], We would have punished those who disbelieved among them with painful punishment

    048.026

    Sahih International: When those who disbelieved had put into their hearts chauvinism – the chauvinism of the time of ignorance. But Allah sent down His tranquility upon His Messenger and upon the believers and imposed upon them the word of righteousness, and they were more deserving of it and worthy of it. And ever is Allah, of all things, Knowing.

    048.027

    Sahih International: Certainly has Allah showed to His Messenger the vision in truth. You will surely enter al-Masjid al-Haram, if Allah wills, in safety, with your heads shaved and [hair] shortened, not fearing [anyone]. He knew what you did not know and has arranged before that a conquest near [at hand].

    048.028

    Sahih International: It is He who sent His Messenger with guidance and the religion of truth to manifest it over all religion. And sufficient is Allah as Witness.

    048.029
    Christains and jews are believers as in other words the wrath is on Pagans the peoplewho do not belikeve in one God.So your hard work has gone to waste.
    Better luck next time

    Sahih International: Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves. You see them bowing and prostrating [in prayer], seeking bounty from Allah and [His] pleasure. Their mark is on their faces from the trace of prostration. That is their description in the Torah. And their description in the Gospel is as a plant which produces its offshoots and strengthens them so they grow firm and stand upon their stalks, delighting the sowers – so that Allah may enrage by them the disbelievers. Allah has promised those who believe and do righteous deeds among them forgiveness and a great reward.

    • Also, I find the version of the Qur’an you use interesting. Myself, I tend to prefer literal translations of the Qur’an (and the Bible too, for that matter).

      Literal translation of the Koran

      You’ll find some striking differences between this version and yours – almost like yours was written to ‘steer’ people toward a different understanding. (incidentally, this version of the Koran led me to reject several attacks on Islam that claimed the Qur’an says things that I do not believe it says, things that were intended to harm the Muslim faith but are nothing but lies. So believe what you will, but I do my own research and draw my own conclusions from what is actually in the original texts. Then I do my best to bare truthful witness to the same.)

  6. im an arab muslim woman ..i recite quran every single day and frankly im shocked with this article and all these misunderstandnigs about islam …the truth is i became ore interseted in islam recently so i stared studying and reading more about it and more i know the more i love it . i wont go in all the details but islam tuught me to be peaceful to respect others to be paitent”through fasting ” to help the poor”through zakah” , to never to hurt anyone even by words ,never to hurt an animal” there is a verse that a woman who prays and fasts intered hell because she locked a cat in a closet and never let eat or go ” ,do know that islam told us to treat nonmuslims who do not harm us with “ber ” which is the same word used to discribe how to treat our parents which means utmost respect ..this is islam

  7. No answers to questions. Only attacks. The “non-answers” answer our questions my friends. Destroyers, not creators.

    Great civilizations create, they do not destroy.

  8. So as I was I was thinking today; in
    Layman’s terms; what are the aspects of great civilizations we admire? The “ancient” Chinese. Created gunpowder, built amazing cities. Built oceangoing/exploring ships 300 feet long centuries before the Europeans. 5000 years of Medicine. . .
    Egyptians, pyramids, etc.
    Central America, unbelievable cities/pyramids culture. . .
    Rome, do I really need to list?
    Modern Western world, all of the above, plus airplane, the moon, westerner medicine, universities, art, tv, the light bulb, building of cars, motorcycles, new cities, modern farming to feed more. Indoor plumbing for goodness sakes.
    Universities that invite scholars from all over the world to research and learn. Hospitals, genetics, nuclear physics, etc.
    Where are the Muslim/Islam equals?
    What have the followers of Islam CREATED for the betterment of MANKIND?
    Where? I’m listening!

    • Tex, I have found that people who ask questions such as yours are rarely truly interested in the answer, but maybe you are an exception, so here goes. many universities were started by Muslims, and their advancements in math and the development of the scientific method led to the accomplishments that you list.
      Although the ‘Zero’ was conceived of in India, it was spread to Europe by the muslims. who also did seminal work on irrational numbers.

      Zakariyya Ar-Raazi (died in 313 A.H.) pioneered the use of sutures around 1000 a.d.. A muslim medical dictionary, written by Abu Al-Qaasim Az-Zahraawi and translated into Latin, was considered the first medical encyclopedia, and became a standard reference source for European doctors.

      I found out all this in a few minutes, using Google, aqll the while running a boat, so I know that you can find these answers yourself, if the truth matters to you.

      • Texas,

        I have to sort of side with Melfamy on this one. The West is no angel when it comes to destroying things (ask the Japanese).

        At the same time, Melfamy, he has a point: the many peoples who are now Muslim had great cultural achievements in their past that – in most cases today – seem to have been arrested.

        I’ll admit, Texas has brought up a tough issue as I am as want to separate religion from culture as the next person. The problem is I know from history that this can seldom be done.

  9. Thank you gentlemen. When i ask a question, I respect an accurate answer. So at one time they did in fact lead the world…
    Was Rhodes correct here? “the “Gates of Ijtihad” were closed about a thousand years ago, apparently for the political reasons: religious authorities declared that all questions had been addressed during the past four centuries, so there was therefore no more need for questioning.”? And is this when things changed?

    • flasawdst, My only point is that your thoughts are not following logic.
      Islam is a very peaceful religion some guys misconstrue its teachings. Many persons read the bible and make it say anything they want.
      Islam does not promote hatered ever.
      Have a great day

  10. My Islam teaches me the following:
    Quran is the word of Allah/God
    Worship Allah and declare the ONENESS of Allah
    Jesus is the Messiah born of vigin Mary
    Mohammed is the last and final messenger of Allah
    Be good to all people who are good to me or my family and to Islam in general.
    Follow the rules of the land you live in.
    Do not harm any one that does not harm you or the family. If Jew or Christains neighbors are good to you, be good to them more than they are to you.
    Killing one person is like killing humanity, saving one life is like saving humanity.

    All religions belong to ALLAH and had He wished He would have made all religions the same.
    So that you may come to know them better so He divided the people into tribes and religions
    Muslims job is to give the message of Allah that there is only one God not two or three, ie no Trinty.
    Jesus was taken away from the cross and did not die on the cross.
    Jesus performed miracles by the grace of God, Jesus was the messiah and holy prophet
    Christains and Jews are people of the book and are excluded in the killings in Islam.
    All people who believe in ONE God are considered Muslim, ie Adam , EVE Moses, Abraham Noah etc
    There is life after death if you do good you go to heaven or if you do bad then to hell.
    If a person becomes Muslim all his/her past sins are forgiven by Allah.

    Allah gives the muslim faith to whom He wishes.
    Allah is the provider of sustainence in this world and here after.
    Quarn was revealed over 32 yrs period of time, God revelealed the verses as needed.
    Quran is not compiled in order so one has to understand in which period the verses were revealed.
    Allah is merciful to all good and pious people be it Christains , Jews or Muslims as long as they follow their true religion.

    And they believe in the ONENESS of God, no free passes to heaven.

    This what I learned from the Quran and am sure you will find fault in this too.

      • Very good for you, you can gloat in your happiness as long as you want , but its not getting you to anywhere

        • Incidentally, in the Qur’an, Allah calls himself the greatest deceiver. He boasts about it even, bragging about his deceptions. In the Bible – the same bible Muhammad said is true – it says Satan is known as the great deceiver.

          Now how is it Muhammad – a man who cannot lie – tells me the Bible is true, yet Allah then calls himself the great deceiver?

          One might think that the jihn (demon) that seized Muhammad wasn’t Gabriel but Satan and that Muhammad was correct when he first told his friends he had been possessed in that cave (yes, this is in the historic record).

          Let me ask you something else. The Bible prophecies that no one will ever stand against Israel. Islamic prophecy says that Islam will wipe Israel from the earth. So why is it that every time Muslims have attacked Israel, they have lost the battle?

    • The Qur’an repeatedly uses the term “we” when Allah is speaking. It also refers to a spirit. Is this spirit ‘makhluk?’ (created) Because I thought Muhammad said “Whoever says it is created is a heretic…” But if this spirit is not created, then how does it created, even to blow life into and create another being? (Qur’an 3:29) Elsewhere Allah says he breathed life into Adam (Qur’an 38:72), but in 21:91, Allah says ‘WE’ breathed into Mary and made her son (Jesus). This sure seems to make two (this spirit and Allah) into one.

      So, if this spirit is not created as Muhammad said, then wouldn’t this be an admission that the spirit is part of the trinity?

      Muhammad was asked about this, but he refused to answer other than to say there are things that Muslims do not need to know (Qur’an 17:85)

      • We is used by royals like Allah.
        Did Sultan Salahuddin send 6 ships to rescue the Shepardic jews from Spain Yes/No
        Did thw same Sultan ask the jews and christains to come and look after their holy sites Yes/No
        Salauddin saves all the non combatants after the victory of Jerusalem, Yes /No
        Enough for now ore you will be confused.

      • I responded to you earlier, where is the point you are making I do not see it.
        Muhammed is the best of humans , he did what he was guided to do no more or less.
        Did christains kill millions in the Inquisitions. Yes/No

        • So, it IS a correct teaching of Islam to kill the Jews. Thank you.

          As for the Crusades (I suppose this is what you mean), I’ll answer by way of asking you why the Crusaders came to the holy lands in the first place when they had been Christian since shortly after Christ was crucified? It was not a Christian war of aggression, it was a reprisal. But this is a better reply:

          BUT, WHAT ABOUT THE CRUSADES – YOU MAY BE ASKING:

          Every Christian who participated in the Crusades, did so, against the teachings of Jesus.

          However, in retrospect, the Crusades probably allowed the western world a thousand years of freedom from the diabolical Islamic religion. The Crusaders stopped the expansion of the Islamic empire. This allowed Christianity to prosper in Europe which preserved the gospel for the rest of the world to receive.

          The Crusades were a reaction to the Muslim crusades against the entire world.

          In the 7th century, the Muslims took control of Jerusalem, and in the 11th century they began to hassle, kill, molest Christian pilgrims in the Jerusalem area. The Muslim Turks even attacked Rome and Belgrade in 1456 A.D. The Crusades were also in response to the cries of help from the eastern Byzantine Empire, which was very worried about the military threat to it from the Seljuk Turks. So if the Christians did not respond, the Muslims would have conquered all of Europe and wiped out Christianity from the planet. Did this have any significance to Osama bin Laden’s sick mind? The Muslim high point in Europe ended when they were turned back from Vienna on September 11, 1683 A.D.

          In AD 1009, Kalif Hakem of Egypt ordered the destruction of the Holy Sepulcher and all Christian places of worship in Jerusalem. Christians were persecuted cruelly and pilgrims were attacked.

          Here is a speech from Pope Urban II to Christians from this Crusader era:


          For your brethren who live in the east are in urgent need of your help, and you must hasten to give them the aid which has often been promised to them. For, as most of you have heard, the Turks and Arabs have attacked them and have conquered the territory of Romania (the Greek empire) as far west as the shore of the Mediterranean and the Hellespont, which is called the Arm of St. George. They have occupied more and more of the lands of those Christians, and have overcome them in seven battles. They have killed and captured many, and have destroyed the churches and devastated the empire. If you permit them to continue thus for a while with impunity, the faithful of God will be much more widely attacked by them. On this account I, or rather the Lord, beseech you as Christ’s heralds to publish this everywhere and to persuade all people whatever rank, foot-soldiers and knights, poor and rich, to carry aid promptly to those Christians and to destroy that vile race from the lands of our friends.


          SPAIN UNDER THE MOORS

          Neither was Spain under the Muslim Moors the jewel of Islamic tolerance that it is often purported to be. In 920 A.D. all the inhabitants of Muez were put to the sword. Cordova, Zarajoza and Merida were burned to the ground, with all adult males executed and all women and children enslaved. In AD 1066 all the Jews of Grenada were slaughtered. In AD 1126, all the Christians of Grenada were deported to Morocco.

          CARNAGE IN CONSTANTINOPLE
          Under Mehmet II the Turks conquered the great Byzantine capital, Constantinople. On 29 May, 1453 A.D., waves of Turkish soldiers swept into Constantinople, the greatest city in the world at that time, and put it to the sword. Priceless libraries and irreplaceable works of art were burned, the population slaughtered, even in the Hagia Sophia, the greatest Christian church in the world at that time.

          For centuries the Turks demanded an annual “blood levy” of Christian boys.
          Parents were forced to hand over one out of every five Christian boys for service in the Sultan’s army as janissaries.

          In 1860 over 12,000 Christians were slaughtered in Lebanon. In 1876 14,700 Bulgarians were murdered by the Turks. 200,000 Armenian Christians were slaughtered by the Turks in Bayazid in 1877. And in 1915 the Turks massacred over 1.5 million Armenian Christians. As recently as September 1922 the Turkish army destroyed the ancient city of Smyrna with its 300,000 Christian population.

  11. From a position of logical argument, it is a fallacy to point to someone else’s wrongs to distract from your own. It neither excuses, justifies nor explains your wrong andymore than it does the other person’s. It’s informally called “and-you-too.”

    The issue at hand is that everything I have been saying IS in the Qur’an and Hadith. Now that you have admitted that Muhammad killed the Jews at Banu Qurayza, and that Muhammad is the ultimate example for how a Muslim is suppose to live, the rest of my claims are also substantiated.

    I’m done as you have conceded my points.

    • As long as you are happy, truth can take a hike conceited and ignorant are people who do not get the MESSAGE

    • No onws would normally look for your blog.
      Though you have parially quoted from the Qura, but in a distorted view, leaving out the relavent verses as convenient to you. You have conceded to your own point from the start.
      Islam and Mohammed are the best examples to follow.
      All converts to Islam are happy and content with life.

  12. FROM THE HADITH

    Bukhari:V4B52N50 “Muhammad said, ‘A single endeavor of fighting in Allah’s Cause is better than the world and whatever is in it.'” (i.e. Fighting is not only considered good, it’s Islam’s best deed. There are other passages just like this one)

    Bukhari:V4B52N220 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘I have been made victorious with terror. The treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand.'” (i.e. Terror is how Muhammad spread his religion. It has been a central aspect of Islam since the attack on Medina.)

    Bukhari:V4B52N196 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say,”None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.”‘” (i.e. Muhammad claimed that Allah commanded him to fight non-believers until they all submit or are killed.)

    Bukhari:V4B52N54 “The Prophet said, ‘Were it not for the believers who do not want to be without me, I would always go forth in army-units setting out for Jihad.'” (i.e. Muhammad is explaining that the previous passage would have him constantly at war – jihad – were it not for the people who wanted him to remain at home.)

    Bukhari:V9B88N174 “I heard the Prophet saying, ‘Islam cannot change!'” (i.e. It can’t be reformed. Islam commands violence and forbids the questioning of Muhammad.)

    Bukhari:V4B52N260 “The Prophet said, ‘If a Muslim discards his religion, kill him.'” (i.e. This is why we must try to help Muslims free themselves from islam. Without our help, death is their only way out. It is also why I have said that – by Islamic law – Obama is still a Muslim.)

    Bukhari:V7B67N427 “The Prophet said, ‘If I take an oath and later find something else better than that, then I do what is better and expiate my oath.'” (i.e. Muslims can break treaties and promises. There are other passages commanding just this in relation to non-believers.)

    These passages detail and support every claim I have made. Uzoozy then confirmed my claims by refusing to renounce the words and actions of Muhammad and admitting that Muhammad DID – IN FACT – murder the Jews.

    Like I said, I take NO pleasure in this and wish I could explain to Muslims just how badly they have been deceived, but I have not lied, nor is my presentation of what is in the Islamic holy books ‘distorted.’ What you believe is up to you, but – if you doubt me – I cannot urge you with enough passion to read these books for yourself. You’ll see I have told the truth.

    • In defending Islam a lot of followers were afraid of dying and did not want to go to battles.
      When Islamic forces conqured they spared all the people, They never looted the places they captured.
      Life went on a normal, unlike Christain forces who slaughtered everyone in Jerusalem they killed all Jews , christains and Muslims , rivers of blood flooded the streets.
      Muslims need to teach people like you how to live a content life in Islam.
      My religion does not force me to do anything I do not want to do, We are here to please Allah and obey his command out of goodwill and obedience.
      Christains lie all the time, the bible is all about deception deceit and debauchary .Yes /No
      If you write half truths and blow your own horn you are not going too far.
      When reading the Quran ask Allah for His mercy on you so that you may understand the simple language.
      Your only proof is getting deeper and deeper in dodo . Your are obsessed by the murder of Jews , I do not advocate killing any one, you are and obsessive compulsive liar.

      • NOTE TO RNL READERS:

        “Muslims need to teach people like you how to live a content life in Islam.”

        That is a polite way of saying I must submit.

        Uzoozy,

        I will NEVER submit to what I consider to be the negation of my faith. Sorry, isn’t going to happen – ever!

        • Live in Lala land without true faith and understanding of purpose of llife as man many people like you are living with half truths and lies.
          You have not answered all my questions that menas I win and you loose.
          You are indeed an hyprocrite,God is your lord.

        • I do not care whether you submit or not. All I want you to do is to keep off my religion, if you have nothing good to say then do not say it. Never be arrogant you will eat your very words

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