You get the Government you deserve…

You get the Government You Deserve

After the SCOTUS decision on Obamacare Tax there was and still is plenty on gnashing of teeth and thrashing about over the ruling.  Well part of CJR’s (Chief Justice Roberts) argument for upholding the Tax is that the court is not in place to make moral judgements on legislation passed by the Congress and signed into law by the President.

Equal Justice Under Law

Now we can debate that as what the SCOTUS has been doing for the past 175 years, but that is not what I’m writing about here.  CJR basically told the American people that you’ve (collectively) put these “representatives” into office and this is what they have wrought you…. why be upset?  You asked for it!  And you know…. he’s correct.

The American people have been to concerned with American Idol, Does This Dress Make Me Look Fat, and the Will He Pick ME shows to pay any attention to what those in D.C. have been doing.  We truly deserve the consequences of legislation by the unsupervised employees in Congress.  And guess what…It’s not the MEDIA’S job to point out that the “citizen based government” sent to D.C. is spending beyond it’s means and offering “goodies” to those who, by their own admission, have nothing to offer in the way of paid taxes into the government…and all the other misdeeds that have gone on in D.C. for the past 100 years.  It’s the people who have let this Nation down not the Federal Government.

“In selecting men for office, let principle be your guide. Regard not the particular sect or denomination of the candidate — look at his character. It is alleged by men of loose principles, or defective views of the subject, that religion and morality are not necessary or important qualifications for political stations. But the scriptures teach a different doctrine. They direct that rulers should be men who rule in the fear of God, men of truth, hating covetousness. It is to the neglect of this rule that we must ascribe the multiplied frauds, breaches of trust, speculations and embezzlements of public property which astonish even ourselves; which tarnish the character of our country and which disgrace our government. When a citizen gives his vote to a man of known immorality, he abuses his civic responsibility; he not only sacrifices his own responsibility; he sacrifices not only his own interest, but that of his neighbor; he betrays the interest of his country.” Noah Webster

Oh yes there are many people who feel that they are paying attention now.  Most send out emails and make comments to social network sites, but what else are they doing?  Do they pay a visit to their local Representative’s office?  Do they go to the local County seat of government and make known any grievances that need to be addressed?  Do they even take time out to view the employees they send to D.C. and see what is going on a frequent basis?  We, the taxpayers in the mid-70s created CSPAN and I dare say most people have never tuned to that program on the cable listing or even go to the CSPAN web site.  Laziness plain and simple is the reason for the government we have today… period.

But I send emails, sign petitions, and I vote!

Yes, you may have, and where has that led us to?  More of the same non-representative government that has been complained about for as long as I care to remember.  Maybe… just maybe it might take more than just voting and shouting from your front porch.

Have we become the backslidden society that our founders warned about from the inception of our Republic?

 “Human rights can only be assured among a virtuous people. The general government . . . can never be in danger of degenerating into a monarchy, an oligarchy, an aristocracy, or any despotic or oppressive form so long as there is any virtue in the body of the people.” George Washington

“But I’m too busy to pay attention, besides I voted for such and such to go to D.C. and do the job, that’s what we pay them for anyway.”  Ever hear that one?  But even if you hire someone to do a job you still ensure they do the job they were hired for and if the job is not accomplished then that employee is sent packing.  Not in this time…the people have abdicated their responsibility in OUR government.  You only have to look at voter turn out percentages to recognize this fact.

 “…if the citizens neglect their Duty and place unprincipled men in office, the government will soon be corrupted; laws will be made, not for the public good so much as for selfish or local purposes; corrupt or incompetent men will be appointed to execute the Laws; the public revenues will be squandered on unworthy men; and the rights of the citizen will be violated or disregarded.” Noah Webster

“Democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts and murders itself. There was never a democracy that did not commit suicide.” John Adams

Thankfully we are a Republic, a Republic sliding into a democracy that will surely be our ultimate demise.

Is that what is happening to our Republic, a slow suicidal death?  It takes more than just leaving the land of Nod this election season to rid our Nation of this blight of ignorance, laziness and apathy.  It will take generations to make this Nation a virtuous place on the face of the Earth.  Just as generations have been born into the modern day slavery of Government Assistance, generations taught that the soft chains of benevolent tyranny of the Government will hold this Nation back and NOT allow it to fulfill it’s destiny as the beacon of freedom in the world.

 “No government can continue good but under the control of the people; and . . . . their minds are to be informed by education what is right and what wrong; to be encouraged in habits of virtue and to be deterred from those of vice . . . . These are the inculcations necessary to render the people a sure basis for the structure and order of government.” Thomas Jefferson

Well how are these people sent to our seat of Federal Government supposed to know what righteousness is and how to apply it through governmental actions?  Back in the ancient times in America, you know way back in the 30s, 40s, and 50s,  last century, parents taught children how is was to be a free, and righteous people.  Now the family unit has been dare I say demonized and even to be scoffed.

 “Children should be educated and instructed in the principles of freedom.” John Adams

Now there are some females of the species that are known to say that a man isn’t needed to raise a child, we’ve evolved to be better than those ancient times. That is how far we’ve come in our society… that the very presence of a man is decried as unnecessary in the family of today. In some cases the mere presences of parents is too much and the Government will step in to decide how the child shall be raised.  So who will teach our children, the Government?  Was it so easy in those earlier days that only one “parent” can do the job of educating the child to be a virtuous person with the understanding of right and wrong?  But when these children of today’s “modern society” grow up to become active members of our society how are they to know right from wrong if they haven’t been taught the difference?  These things are not inherited through the blood or sent telepathically by good intentions by a parent.

There are generations that have been in a home there entire lives that there was only ONE or NO parental figure.  Life hasn’t gotten any easier and the duty of parenting certainly isn’t easier with one parent.  Now it can be done, that is not my point, my point is that the fact that two are better than one is not to be pooh poohed as old-fashioned.  But “modern” activists of today seem to think that we as a society have progressed to the point that surely we can make it work because well… we’re Americans.  And as the great master that is the American Government will absolutely reward the notion of a single parent family and fully subsidize it, there is in some minds no need to ever do anything different.  That is just not how this Nation became great and it’s not going to gain back that greatness if our society maintains its current trajectory.

“I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.” Thomas Jefferson

Sorry, but if America is such a horrible place and the creator of evil all over the world, then why do millions risk everything they have to come to our shores and try to begin a new life in our Nation?  They come here because they have hunger to be a free person who based on their own abilities can succeed and pass on to their posterity the fruits of their labor, something they could never do in their homelands.  Yet those in power today will never cede the power they’ve obtained from the People to allow fruits of individual labor to be passed on from generation to generation.  In other words, they will deny Liberty to the next generation, because the fruits of your labor is LIberty, that is what you work for every day.  That more than any other reason is why people risk it all to be a part of the American experience.

 “To take from one because it is thought that his own industry and that of his father’s has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association—the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it.” Thomas Jefferson

I don’t believe that this Nation is doomed to failure nor do I believe that this Nation can continue on its current path.  Most born in the last 30 years were never taught any American citizenship during their educational processes.  In fact, I dare say, they were probably taught just the opposite.  Taught that America is the blame for all it’s ills.  That America has been full of itself for too long and needed to be brought down a peg or two to make it fair for those who are oppressed.

But hey how would they know any better, parents don’t teach most children citizenship because most themselves don’t know it.  I dare say that  most don’t understand the basics of how laws are made in America.  I don’t believe most know who their local elected officials are, how to contact them either by phone, email or in person. In fact for most the closest thing to an educational program that taught citizenship was the School House Rock shorts of the 1970’s by of all things the American Broadcasting Company. My how the media has changed in America.

If Americans are expected to participate in the process that is OUR government then educating the people is a necessity dare I say an imperative. Read the Declaration of Independence, read the Preamble to the Constitution, heck read the whole thing it’s not that long.  Read about Washington at Valley Forge and how this Nation was about 13 days away from NEVER existing.  Learn about the Gettysburg Address and those who gave their lives there.  Read the words of Frederick Douglass and how all men yearn to be free.  Read about the Presidential Election of 1912 and how it’s the birthday of the progressive movement in America and why third-party candidates create the exact problem they try to prevent.

Become part of the process… it requires more than voting, emailing and signing online petitions.  Become FULLY involved… it is your responsibility as a citizen of the United States of America.

 “[N]either the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. He therefore is the truest friend of the liberty of his country who tries most to promote its virtue, and who, so far as his power and influence extend, will not suffer a man to be chosen onto any office of power and trust who is not a wise and virtuous man.” Samuel Adams

48 thoughts on “You get the Government you deserve…

  1. “Back in the ancient times in America, you know way back in the 30s, 40s, and 50s, last century, parents taught children how is was to be a free, and righteous people.”

    At least white people, perhaps:

    Or those white people who didn’t have to employ their kids in factories, or apprentice them out to others who could afford to feed them.

    Otherwise, I agree with most of what’s here. We do mostly get the government we deserve. After the most heavily reported court action in years, 30 percent of respondents in a Pew poll didn’t know what the court had done in regards the health care law, while another 15 percent thought the court had rejected most of the provisions of the law. In addition to what you’ve written here, more also should watch their City Council on public-access television and attend candidates’ forums.

    Oddly, not only are most people apathetic about politics in general, they’re least interested in the local issues they could most influence and which usually affect them most. They’re much more likely to vote in national elections, especially if political ads, blogs and talk-show spin generate enough heat about inflammatory “threats” involving such things as flag burning, guns, homosexuality, immigration and terrorism.

    • Thanks for the inputs James…I find it perplexing that those who’s heritage came from enslavement chose to become enslaved by an even greater and less benevolent master. The other topic I left out was the “special” groups that are selected to be “assisted” by our grand master Government. Until we rid our Nation of the hyphenated American we, I’m afraid, will never be a unified people. Thanks again.

      • Interesting to me that thos who “chose to become enslaved by an even greater and less benevolent master” doesn’t see as such. Most simply see it as a way to survive or a way to get “what’s mine” (an entitlement).

          • HD – I don’t argue the point that it is generational slavery. In fact, I would argue that you are correct. I see it every day in the correctional facility (state prison) where I work. There we call it becoming “institutionalized”. The inmates accept that prison is as good as it will get, become dependent upon it, and don’t want to leave (to the point of re-offending to be able to come back, as in Shawshank Redemption). My point is that if you asked someone who is getting these entitlement programs, they would quickly tell you they are not slaves to anything. They are “entitled”.

      • HD – I also agree that being hyphenated does nothng but drive us further apart and until we all become just plain “Americans” we will never be even close to unified. African-Americans, Asian-Americans, Hispanic-Americans, Native Americans, and so on does nothing to bring us together. (I really like the term “White Hispanic” as applied to Zimmerman. WTF is that?). I understand people want to be close to and associate with people of like colors, creeds, beliefs, and mores, but if we live in the USA, we are all simply Americans. I also believe English should be the first language of our Nation. If you want to live here, learn the language. If I decided to live in Mexico or Germany, I would feel it my responsibilty to learn to speak Spanish or German, not insist they learn to speak English.

        • “until we all become just plain “Americans” we will never be even close to unified”

          I suspect that will work itself out, as we become “browner” as a society–young people don’t seem as interested in the differentiating labels.

          “if we live in the USA, we are all simply Americans”

          Easy for you and me to say, though I live in an area known for neo-Nazi hate activities (you may have heard about our bomb found at last year’s MLK parade). And things like this don’t help:

          “If you want to live here, learn the language.”

          Most do, within a generation, just as our ancestors from France, Germany, Poland, etc., did. And as someone who has volunteered in teaching English to immigrants, I know those courses tend to be full. In fact, folks who want immigrants to learn the language could help a lot by similarly volunteering. It’s also a way to meet determined people who often have a better understanding of American values than those who’ve lived here their entire lives.

          • So we don’t need all of the proposed legislation to make Spanish a second language, or (God forbid) the California Ebonics proprosal of the ’80s, right? Do we need legislation for this? I know this sounds like an internet merry-go-round, but do I really need to call a company and have a recorded voice tell me to “press 1 for English”? I believe Spanish should be taught (at least basic Spanish) to further our children’s skills and broaden their horizons, but as a part of a curriculm, not law.

            • “I believe Spanish should be taught (at least basic Spanish) to further our children’s skills and broaden their horizons, but as a part of a curriculm, not law.”

              In general, I agree. I teach at a liberal arts university where students are required to take two semesters of some other language (we happen to offer Spanish, French, German, Chinese, Greek and Latin), and I think that’s a good thing. I also wouldn’t mind if high school students (as is common with a lot of our private school students) were required to take some foreign language, especially if they had options. I didn’t take any in high school or college, and wish I had. I later picked up a bit of Spanish, but it didn’t last long.

              “do I really need to call a company and have a recorded voice tell me to “press 1 for English”?

              That will happen as long as companies have the choice to do what they think is in their best interest. And with companies selling around the world, I suspect we’ll see more of it (with more languages) before we see less.

              • I had to take two semesters of Spanish to complete my BA. Also, high school students in Jackson Co. can take Spanish in high school and the credits count toward the advanced degree requirement. As far as “press 1 for English” – – I don’t like it. How about, “Hello, you have reached XYZ Corporation. Your call is very important to us. Press 1 for Spanish or stay on the line to talk to a real, live person.”

                • If enough customers made that preference known, perhaps companies would do that–again, they do what they’re doing to enhance their own bottom line. I’d just like to be able “to talk to a real, live person.” Preferably one I can understand.

  2. “those who’s heritage came from enslavement chose to become enslaved by an even greater and less benevolent master”

    I suspect they wouldn’t see it that way, though I understand why you do. As far as being truly unified, I don’t know that we ever have been, as nice at that would be. Close in times of war, perhaps, though I doubt we want more of that. Thanks.

    • Agreed. Healthcare is a prime example. Nearly everyone will agree that it needs to be revamped or changed in some way, but few agree on how to get it done. Some want more government funding or participation, if you will. Some want less. We all agree the cost is too high, but few really want “socialized” healthcare.

      (Too much coffee at Waffle House tonight! 🙂 )

  3. “few really want ‘socialize’ healthcare”

    And yet we get much of the worst of socialized healthcare through our current system, as anyone with a family member who has had a serious illness might understand. The difference is that we have insurance company drones instead of government drones coming between us and our doctors and “rationing” care–while all of us pay emergency-room medical rates for the sickest and the indigent.

    I don’t know all the details, but I’d like to see discussion of a system more like that of France, which has ranked as having the best health care in the world:

    Waffle House–one of the things I miss about living in the South. We don’t have them up in our corner of the country.

    • I read the link you provided. Not “socialized medicine” perhaps, but certainly “subsidized medicine” when an employee has to pay 21% of their income in taxes to support the system. Also, the sickest (who can’t work) are getting 100% coverage which means someone is having to pick up their share. People here would argue that the system also compromises “free enterprise” by limiting the doctors and hospitals on what they can charge. In the US, the government simply picks up the extra (indigent or seriously ill with no insurance) and the taxpayer gets the shaft. IMHO, the system we have here is not so bad, IF ONE HAS A JOB. Most employers still offer insurance to employees (similar to the French model) and the local county tax supported hospitals (by law) picks up the indigents. Regardless of what some people would have you believe, people who need healthcare have access to healthcare, even if they don’t have the money to pay for it.

  4. “certainly “subsidized medicine” when an employee has to pay 21% of their income in taxes to support the system”

    Indeed. I wonder how those costs compare to what we pay here for insurance that provides the same coverage?

    “Also, the sickest (who can’t work) are getting 100% coverage which means someone is having to pick up their share.”

    Also true–but that’s the same as here, and the same as most (not all, admittedly) apparently Americans want.

    “the system we have here is not so bad, IF ONE HAS A JOB.”

    Sometimes, sometimes not. I’ve always worked, and have sometimes had very good insurance coverage, sometimes not. And the health benefits offered to my graduating students have been going down year by year (I’ve been teaching in universities for more than 20 years). And of course more of them are graduating without jobs to go to. Besides, I think the U.S.can do better than “not so bad.”

    “local county tax supported hospitals (by law) picks up the indigents”

    Which is part of the problem. One very sick indigent case can stress a small, poor county.

    “people who need healthcare have access to healthcare”

    Maybe. I’d say that’s a complicated issue. A family member with a complicated medical history can quickly face limitations on treatment and insurance caps that mean some things arn’t covered–so life-and-death basic healthcare may be there, when standard-of-living healthcare is lacking:

    OK, bedtime for me–no Waffle House coffee here, and the Mariners just finished losing another game. 🙂 Thanks.

    • I’ve had two good jobs in my life. I was in the telecommunications business for 27 years and always had good insurance thanks to my employers or the union, whichever you prefer to thank. I was covered under a county Blue Cross Blue Shield plan as an education employee for 6 years. Great insurance. I been a state employee for 6 years now. Again, BCBS coverage, great insurance. At no time have I paid 21% of my income.

      Yes, county hospitals are strained, but the cost of indigent care is passed along to property owners in the form of millage. Then the difference is picked up by Medicaid – the government funding I was referring to. Make no mistake, I’m all for Medicare as I’ve stated many times, much to the dismay of others who post here. Seniors who can no longer work but have contributed all their lives, in my opinion, deserve the safety net, but I do not support the ongoing care of people who do no/will not work that comes out of my pocket (added to the 21% if you like).

      I don’t personally know of (no surprise there) anyone who has been denied medical in my area. On the other hand, perhaps these people don’t get the “best” medical care (Shands, Mayo Clinic, etc.). I might concede that one, but then again, if I can’t come up with the difference in what my most excellent insurance will pay, I might not either. Obamacare will not fix that.

    • That’s what my wife had. They were good (I had some). Mine were crispy covered with cheese, yum – – – but that freaking coffee kept me up all night!

  5. James, I have to say …. though I do not agree with some of your points, I am happy to see that I was pleased with how this thread went from you …. particularly as you move in to the discussion of healthcare.

    Well done. 🙂

    • Thanks, Augger. I can’t promise it will continue, of course, though I’ll do my best. 😉

      • I appreciate that. I’ll promise to do my best too. I think it’s rather easy … post something in good faith, and receive a good faith response. Does not mean we have to agree (and I am 100% certain we will find very little to agree upon), but we’ll get there … to a level of understanding.

        Dialog is started that way. 🙂

  6. Yes, augger thank you, all I wanted from this post is to have folks ….. think. Ponder upon what has happened to create that “entitlement society” that will most certainly be the downfall of the Republic. But remember this… a minority is just that; Less than the Majority. Unless physics has been turned inside out less can never be greater than more.

  7. Went over and looked at the site. Attorneys (and law students) volunteering to teach citizenship classes for law credits . . . hmmmmm. Good idea or bad? Somebody needs to be teaching it as I don’t believe Civics is taught anymore, at least the Civics that was taught to me in the 7th grade in 1966 or 67. Also looked at a lesson for elementary, middle school, and high school level students. Didn’t see anything particularly subversive there. What did you see?

  8. Now I do not want to go through the fourty something responses all over again (we had this long winded discussion on the Newherald forums back in the day, but …

    The problems with attempting to “rank” healthcare among various nations are the following:
    – Population Census
    – Geography
    – Philosophy/Social/Cultural differences
    – A genuine lack of comparing all disease processes
    – Exclusion of statistics on immediate care, length of time until care, and costs of care.
    – Fiscal status of the nation who would be paying for this care.

    It’s comparing apples and oranges, and following the whole “comparison” line of discussion is a slippery slope that just leads everyone into another “he said, she said” finger pointing fest.

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