Points to Ponder LVIII

The Story:

MSNBC Host Accuses Limbaugh of Racism for Saying Obama Used to Do Drugs

[NOTE: I am not going to cite anything from this story because I heard the clip live as Rush said it, and the presentation by O’Donnell is so biased and intentionally out of context as to be unrecognizable by those who heard the actual clip.  He also insists that HIS take is what Rush “really” meant — even though Rush never said ANYTHING he claims Rush meant.]

My Question:

Why does the media attack someone for attacking Obama’s drug use WHEN OBAMA HAS MADE JOKES ABOUT HIS DRUG USE?  And why would the media go after Romney for a “supposed,” possible felony that others are saying he did not do while dismissing and even winking at Obama’s admission to felonious acts in doing cocaine?

My comment:

How much more evidence does one need before one starts to accept that the “MSM” is nothing more than the propaganda arm of the American Left/Democrat Party?

64 thoughts on “Points to Ponder LVIII

  1. Obama’s past drug use is beyond the statute of limitations for such crimes, Romney’s alleged financial pecadilloes are still prosecutable.

    O’Donnell went over the top on this one, but I guess we all do from time to time.

    • Romney committed no “peccadilloes” – multiple sources, left and right, have debunked that claim.

      Obama admitted drug use, nobody said anything about prosecuting him, but to repeat his own claims is hardly racist.

      • You did notice my use of the word “alleged”?
        I was attempting to explain to B the difference between the two events, why one, if true, is more relevant than the other.

        • So Greg, your telling me that “IF” Romney’s venture capitalism is a crime, and is relevant … what’s your take on Obama’s venture capitalism? GE jobs – overseas. GM jobs – overseas. Solyndra – bankrupt (jobs lost), etc, etc, etc.

          All on public taxpayer money.

          I have no recollection of Romney doing this with anything but private capital, and you all know, we have the right to risk ‘our’ money as we wish …. rrrriiigggghhhhtttt?

          • No, I am telling you that Romney made Bain part of the political rhetoric. Where did you get the idea that I think venture capitalism is a crime? Hiding money from the taxman, that’s a crime, and I see no evidence yet that Romney is dumb enough to unwittingly finger himself, or that he did anything to finger.

        • Sorry, G, but arguing relevance misses the point of the PRINCIPLE behind it. It is nothing more than apologizing for and defending Obama and — depending upon how it is done – attacking Romney at the same time (albeit most likely and indirect attack, an attack none the less)

          • And why would the media go after Romney for a “supposed,” possible felony that others are saying he did not do while dismissing and even winking at Obama’s admission to felonious acts in doing cocaine?

            Your words, B, notice your use of the word felony? That is what I was responding to

                    • See, you never look past the surface and, whenever you are pressed, you make a comment that confirms it.

                      BTW: I’d rather be “scared” and see what’s coming than keep my head in the ground and take it up the arse because I believed the lines the media was selling me.

                • “because I believed the lines the media was selling me”

                  You realize that Beck is part of “the media,” right? Even if a generally discredited part.

                • Beck is media, B. Radio show, newsletter, all filled with ads targeted towards people who are afraid of their fellow Americans because of ginned-up crap. Why is Obama a communist, for allegedly camping at the feet of Frank Davis, and you, who have read every word of the Koran and the other works of Islam, are not an Islamist?

                    • And Obama did not accept and start pushing communism, and you have no evidence to the contrary. Your evidence is a bunch of innuendo piled on rumors.

                    • Joe, you are the straw man king, your’e statement to me about not having any idea what a commie is was quote deflecting. But you do every one of the following on an almost daily basis:

                      Presenting a misrepresentation of the opponent’s position.
                      Quoting an opponent’s words out of context — i.e. choosing quotations that misrepresent the opponent’s actual intentions
                      Presenting someone who defends a position poorly as the defender, then refuting that person’s arguments — thus giving the appearance that every upholder of that position (and thus the position itself) has been defeated.
                      Inventing a fictitious persona with actions or beliefs which are then criticized, implying that the person represents a group of whom the speaker is critical.
                      Oversimplifying an opponent’s argument, then attacking this oversimplified version.

                • Joe B. apparenlty also sought out Marxists and Islam, if you’re going by this. But I suppose getting a range of perspectives is a bad thing?

    • “O’Donnell went over the top on this one.”

      Gee, an msnbc or Fox News prime time host going “over the top”? Isn’t that what they’re paid for? Much like Rush, come to think of it.

      • Or Matthews who claims Obama gives him a tingle down his leg every time he hears him speak.

        Taste the Rainbow! 🙂

        • Yep, Matthew, too. And Sharpton and Beck and Reagan and Savage and Malkin and Ingraham and…

          Too much noice, too little thought; too much heat, too little light.

          • Oh wow, we hit an agreement. :: applause ::

            I do disagree with Malkin, but I have to admit … the more the liberals attack her, the more she responds … but her early stuff was utterly amazing in my mind.

            So who from either side of the fence do you like to watch, listen, or read from? Who are the honest ones in your mind?

            • As far as “honest,” I don’t fully trust anyone. I watch or listen to most of them once in a while, but mostly for entertainment or to see what the talking points are for one side. For information I rely on a wide range: The Nation, National Review, New York Times, Christian Science Monitor, al Jazeera, Wall Street Journal, Mother Jones, NPR, ProPublica, my local newspaper. Even Fox News, during the day after the morning dummies are gone and before the prime time screamers take over. 🙂

              Mostly, I encourage folks to read more, watch less, and I try to do the same. If I read the same thing in the Nation (liberal) and National Review (conservative), I trust it more than anything I hear from just one side. That’s also why I have such a wide variety of sites in the links section of my own blog.

            • Not that you asked me, But I like Scarborough’s show on the right, and Maddow on the left. Scarborough is an independent cuss, and Maddow is just a nice person who never screams, and always has been quick to acknowledge a mistake she may have made.

              • Yeah, I get it. Savage sometimes has a good message to deliver, but his incessant screaming causes me to flip the channel before I get to it.

                I used to like Burnie Thompson in your area, but he just sort of got to the point that he kept repeating himself. If I am going to tune in to a show, I want to learn something new. Yanno?

              • Yes, I like those two the best on msnbc, too, for the reasons noted. I wish they’d move Joe S. back to prime time. I can’t say that I miss Tucker Carlson there, though.

                • Tucker was abit of atwit, wasn’t he? But just before he disappeared from the airwaves, I was noticing a change in his demeanor; I caught a whiff of personal growth

                • “a whiff of personal growth”

                  Maybe–I’d pretty much stopped watching him. And his new publication is pretty weak.

          • Texas,

            I see what you mean. it’s subtle, but it shows – you just have to read his comment long enough and pay close attention to his “hand.”. I think you could be on to something.

  2. “And so Rush decided to teach Mitt how to go after a minority,“ said ”O’Donnell. “Rush thinks Mitt should be hitting Barack Obama as a lazy, drug-taking beneficiary of affirmative action. Rush didn‘t use the word ’shiftless,’ but Rush threw in every racist stereotype he could in his advice to Mitt.”

    Rush didn’t use any sterotypes so O’Donnell uses the word “shiftless” to imply and defend his own opinion. Typical. Obama used drugs. He admits it. He’s guilty of it. Enough said.

  3. The irony of that 12 min. video you linked us to is that Larry is doing exactly what he is accusing Rush of. “He couldn’t make it through college — and it wasn’t Harvard — cause he flunked! Those are the words from his very own mother!” WTF?

    For somebody who flunked college, I do believe he’s doing quite well for himself…..

  4. Has anybody noticed that the majority of the comments are about anything BUT the hypocrisy of the Left here? I suppose it just goes to show how well most people have been “trained,” and how hard and how much work it takes to pull yourself out of the swamp of indoctrination.

    • I see it every day here Black. I am about to draw the conclusion that there is no reasoning with the irrational.

      • I figured that out a while back. Still, it can be fun to poke them with a sharp stick just to listen to them squeal and make sure they haven’t changed tactics. (no real worries about that last part 😉 )

          • Funny how quickly you conservatives look to guns and violence to deal with those you disagree with. I guess it you have more bullets in your clip than words in your vocabulary, it must be a default position.

            • Funny how we were brave enough to serve in the military, and do not mind discussing how we served … you.

              And now you are going to stand there in judgement. You might have even been a spitter in your day. Who knows for sure, but you do.

              So I suggest that you cannot stand behind a troop, then by all means pick up a rifle and stand in front of one. 🙂

              • I’d thank you for your service, but Joe whined when I did that and then refused to answer when I asked him about it so I assume that you’d rather I didn’t. I’ve had family, friends and students in the military and appreciate their service (and yours, assuming it was honorable). I woudn’t have been a spitter, and make it a practice to whenever I’m in an airport Starbucks to leave money to treat the next serviceman (or woman) in uniform. Some of the best and worst people I’ve known have been veterans, just as some of the best and worst people I’ve known have been police officers.

                And though I considered one of the academies, it is true that my military service merely matches the combined service of Roger Ailes, George Allen, Dick Armey, Michele Bachmann, Glenn Beck, William Bennett, Roy Blunt, John Boehner, John Bolton, Jeb Bush, Saxby Chambliss, Dick Cheney, Tom Coburn, Ann Coulter, Tom DeLay, Bill Frist, Newt Gingrich, Rudy Giuliani, Sean Hannity, Denny Hastert, Laura Ingraham, Alan Keyes, Charles Koch, David Koch, Bill Kristol, Jon Kyl, Rush Limbaugh, Trent Lott, Mitch McConnell, Thaddeus McCotter, Grover Norquist, Ted Nugent, Barack Obama, Sarah Palin, Michael Reagan, Karl Rove, Marco Rubio, Rick Santorum, Michael Savage, Ben Stein, Tom Tancredo, George Will, and all five of Romney’s sons.

  5. “there is no reasoning with the irrational”

    Yes, we rational folks have noticed. But we keep correcting the RNL misrepresentations, just in case rational strangers happen by–and because you amuse us. 🙂

    • Ah but my who’s standards James? Mussolini’s? Marx’s? Hitler’s maybe?

      That’s ok. You keep coming here and correcting our “misrepresentations”. We’ll keep pointing to our U.S. Constitution, you know the pesky little document that defines liberty inside these borders? Yeah, that one. The one you loathe. 🙂

      • ‘who’s standards James? Mussolini’s? Marx’s? Hitler’s”

        Yep, that’s original–repeated only a few thousand times a day by conservative sites. Besides, I told you elsewhere who/what I loathe, and I suspect your compulsive lying is convincing no one at this point.

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