I’ve Found Joe’s Long Lost Twin

At a site called progressingamerica. Their tag line is: “Progressives today don’t want to discuss their own history. I want to discuss their history.”

Here’s a great post that could have been written by our own Black3Actual:

What is progressivism? Well, what is progress? Roger Baldwin explains

In his book “Civil liberties and industrial conflict”(1938), Roger Nash Baldwin, one of the founders of the ACLU has the following to say: (page 3) (Alt. Link)

For while civil liberties to speak, publish, and assemble may justly be regarded as desirable ends in themselves, they are also the means for non-violent progress.

While I have for almost twenty years been associated with a movement which defends without discrimination the liberties set forth in the Bill of Rights, I cannot escape a personal interpretation of the relation of liberty to economics. Many defenders of civil rights on principle are content to accept them without defining progress. I am not. My frame of reference requires a concept of progress. In general terms, it is the extension of the control of social institutions by progressively larger classes, until human society ultimately abolishes the violence of class conflict. The test of that progress lies in increasing freedom for the enrichment of individual life. Democracy and civil liberty are means to that end. So, too, is the organization of labor.

Wow. Anybody who’s read Rules for Radicals can’t help but observe the inner Alinsky that’s on display here.

In order to understand what’s written here, it’s important to understand the code words used. When progressives talk about “democracy”, they don’t simply mean taking it to the voting booth, and the majority wins. It’s a purely governmental thing. They do to a small degree, to be sure. But what they mean by “democracy” is socialism.

One of my favorite points:

What is progressivism then? I can sum it up in three words:

Progressivism is “Regulation, not socialism”. (Richard Van Hise’s words)

Remember where we have heard Roger Nash Baldwin’s name before?

It was here:

Then, just as today, the “progressives” were seemingly so enamored with the Marxist approach to economics and society that they simply could not acknowledge the damage that a Marxist state must vest on its people to make it “work”. Roger Nash Baldwin, the founder of the ACLU, was part of a junket of very influential men who travelled to Russia in 1927 to experience the glory of the Marxist revolution. Ninety-five people paid the princely sum of $1,000 to take part and all were associated with liberal causes and ideas. These individuals would come to significantly influence American policy and politicians and along with Baldwin, included people like Stuart ChaseRexford TugwellJohn Brophy and Paul Howard Douglas.

Perhaps unintentionally ironic, Baldwin wrote this in support of the “successes” that he saw:

Everybody is poor together. There is much discontent, much regulation of life, but not much terrorism or repression except of the old upper classes.

“Progressives” – the name may change but the game remains the same.

30 thoughts on “I’ve Found Joe’s Long Lost Twin

  1. Thanks, boss. Added this site to my list.

    BTW: I will be addressing the Progressive notion of “progress” and “democracy” shortly, but first, I have to establish and explain how language is viewed by Progressives so that people will start learning to understand that – though they use the same words – Progressives do not mean the same things we understand when they use those words. I have to prove that there is a code being used, that it is intended to deceive and explain how to spot and interpret it.

    Next in the series: Dewey, Lippmann and more Bernays and Lakoff. Fun-fun, to be sure – but necessary to understating what is happening in our political arena today.

  2. Definition of oxymoron:
    ” Everybody is poor together. There is much discontent, much regulation of life, but not much terrorism or repression except of the old upper classes.”

    What was and IS wrong with these people who want to CAUSE;
    Terrorism, &

    These people came home to America excited and set to work to create this UTOPIA here in America?

    Emulating these kinds of societies is PROGRESS?

    Enslavement is Progress?

  3. Joe: Except its not really code. They simply have a completely different lexicon where words like democracy, liberty and freedom have a completely different meaning than traditionally understood. It is just that people refuse to believe them when they say what they mean because in general, people don’t want to believe it. Baldwin was given the Medal of Freedom by, you guessed it…Jimmy Carter in 1981 even after being quoted as saying:

    I am for socialism, disarmament, and, ultimately, for abolishing the state itself… I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and the sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal.

    Your work is important – I can tell by the amount of squealing from Professor “Progressive” and his Merry Comrades.

    • I know, sadly, I know. I just wish people would understand that all these supposed “social justice” types really want is to rule the world. they NEVER — and I mean NEVER see THEIR rules as applying to THEM – EVER! They just want to make us all serfs so they can have their fiefdom back.

      Sadder still, they play of the inner greed and envy of those who would sell themselves into slavery never understanding that, should they actually be given the goose that lays the golden eggs, they would just eat it because they have no concept of what it takes to make wealth – only how to consume it. In the end, the whole world would end up poor under the socialists – even them.

  4. Ahh…Stuart Chase. I knew that name sounded familiar. He wrote a book called ” A New Deal” outlining his vision of an ideal government. FDR used his book title as a rallying cry after his election. He named Chase to the National Resources Commission. Chase is given credit for banning ownership of gold by American citizens.

    Stuart Chase also said that people who worked for profit needed to be shot by firing squad.

    • Mr. G,

      I have one more post on the importance of language in the Progressive mind before I start taking Lakoff’s “Little Blue Book” apart. When we do, one of the first chapters we will cover explains how we conservatives are permanently and irreversibly “defective” in our neurological make up — at least, we are according to Lakoff. We will then trace the origins of this sort of thinking – and examine the atrocities that statists have committed as a result.

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