Republicans: Please Explain This

OK, so I have been trying to stay calm and quiet inside and to just read and soak in what is being said by all sides about what this election means.  I am trying to find a new perspective in my search to understand the changes that are taking place in this nation.  That’s how I stumbled across this story:

Boehner to Obama: ‘This is your moment,’ ‘we want you to succeed’

Speaker of the House John Boehner delivered a direct message to President Barack Obama after Obama’s victory in the election: “This is your moment” and “we want you to succeed.”

“If there’s a mandate in yesterday’s [election] results it’s a mandate for us to find a way to work together on the solutions to the challenges that we all face as a nation,” Boehner said in a speech at the Capitol on Wednesday.

So, here is my quandary, and I am hoping some of the Republican readers here on the RNL can help me out with this.

Given that Obama and the Democrats, especially Reid, are claiming the election is a “mandate” for their agenda, how is Boehner’s comment, “This is your moment” and “we want you to succeed,” not an endorsement of that agenda?

In light of Christ Christie’s photo ops with Obama before the election, and now with Boehner’s words and even his signal that Republicans are willing to address raising taxes, why should I — a “conservative” (for lack of a more understood term) — why should I continue to give my allegiance to a Party that, by all appearances, seems to be “joining the enemy?”

 

Now, just as I asked calm, serious questions of the Obama people in my last post, I am asking the same from Republicans here.  I sincerely want to understand this because, right now, I believe I will be a registered independent by the end of the week.  Everything I have seen from the Republican Party over the last 16+ years indicates that the Party is moving further and further to the Left and away from me, confirming — at least in my mind — everything I said before the election.  So, can anyone offer a thoughtful opinion that makes some sense out of what we’re seeing in the Republican Party now?

28 thoughts on “Republicans: Please Explain This

  1. wow. the start to your final papragraph explains it all. And your failings. “Joining the enemy.” Really?

    Do you not understand that we live in a devided nation? And have for a long, long time? That there are dichotomies between rich and poor? Southern and northern” Rural and urban?

    That there is no black and white- just endless shades of gray? And that the recognition of this over the decades is what has allowed our government to help make this nation great?

    No, apparently not. Just more whining. “I’m right god damnit and I must have my way- all other thoughts be damned”.

    And you wonder why- not only did Obama win- but there was such a repudiation of the “tea party values” at the state and national levels/

    • wow. the start to your final papragraph explains it all. And your failings. “Joining the enemy.” Really?

      It is a figure of speech, Drugs. The Left uses the same language, so, if you perceive some malfeasance in my words, why would you imply excuse to the other side.

      Do you not understand that we live in a devided nation? And have for a long, long time? That there are dichotomies between rich and poor? Southern and northern” Rural and urban?

      No, I am well aware that we live in a divided nation, but I am also aware that — historically — we did not start this way. Much of what divides us today was manufactured intentionally, and neither side is innocent.

      That there is no black and white- just endless shades of gray? And that the recognition of this over the decades is what has allowed our government to help make this nation great?

      Now, this is where we disagree. When it comes to matters of right/wrong, there is no gray. When you see gray, you are on the wrong side of right. Gray is nothing more than an indication that you are justifying something you consciously or subconsciously know to be wrong.

      The divide actually comes from the conflict between the controlling ideology of a given society. Those on “the Right” at least claim to hold allegiances to the principles and ideals in the Declaration of Independence. Those on “the Left” no longer embrace these principles and ideals. The resulting conflict is — essentially — a struggle between those who embrace natural law and those who believe in humanistic self-direction.

      No, apparently not. Just more whining. “I’m right god damnit and I must have my way- all other thoughts be damned”.

      And you do not see that what you argue is the same thing with a twist: where I argue that I be left alone and will leave you alone in return, you argue that my rights be trampled in the name of your or some group’s rights/entitlements. Your position is the flip side of the same coin, Drugs. The issue here is that — too often — only one side of that coin tends to see and understand this.

      And you wonder why- not only did Obama win- but there was such a repudiation of the “tea party values” at the state and national levels/

      But there wasn’t a repudiation of the TEA Party. They actually won more seats than the so called “moderate” and “liberal” Republicans. This is another symptom of the problem between us: not only does one side of the coin not see itself in the morality mirror, but because it has embrace humanistic self-direction, it is incapable of admitting to any objective reality that seems to indicate their ideas do not work or that their beliefs are not true.

      But I honestly and sincerely thank you for your input. It’ll be up to you to believe that sincerity.

  2. I think you have already answered your own question.

    I’m not Republican but an Independent Conservative. Boehner and people like him are part of the problem. There is talk on other sites that the he and the Republican party were actually in on Romney’s defeat, paving the way for the likes of Jeb Bush in 2016. Although Romney is not conservative enough for me, he is too conservative for Republican establishment. The Republican party is, as it should be, dead as far as what it was intended to be. Same goes for the Democrat party. Neither party stands for what they were initially intended to stand for. Ideals have changed. America is permanently changed. Its almost as if The Constitution never existed.

    To answer your question myself, Boehner’s statement IS an endorsement of the Liberal’s agenda. End of story.

  3. There was no mandate. Obama barely won the popular vote and squeaked by with the EC in the swing states. He only has a mandate if we give it to him. It’s not like he carried 49 states or something. Now that would be a mandate.

    I’ve always been a Independent Conservative with Libertarian leanings.

  4. Black — too early to tell. At the outset, it looks like Boehner is grabbing the “moral high-ground” in the face of the election results. It could be actually kind of smart given the expectant flippant response surely to come from Harry Reid. You can almost predict it now … “Obama won, and he won big, and this demonstrates, yadda yadda yadda … Americans are sick of the divide, and Obama won by a yadda yadda yadda large margin yadda yadda yadda”.

    Liberals … they always have something to hyperventilate about.

    If I were Boehner, I would as Mr. Reid (and the President), “OK, we are here to compromise. We’ll give you your increased taxes on the rich. You willing to reverse some or all of Obamacare?”

    • Augger,

      But didn’t Boehner effectively just agree with and concede this point?

      “Obama won, and he won big, and this demonstrates, yadda yadda yadda … Americans are sick of the divide, and Obama won by a yadda yadda yadda large margin yadda yadda yadda”.

      And, if so — and I believe he actually did — how does he wrestle any “high ground” away from someone after having just handed it to him? 😦

  5. Harry spoke before Boehner today and basically did his weasel imitation and dared the republicans to NOT go along with any policies they come up with. The Speaker was buying time….which there isn’t much of… to kick the can until after the lame duck session. Reid and the Dems are going to try and corner the Republicans into tax increases across the board. And the grand solution will be the ….. That’s right , the Simpson-Bowles Commission report plan. So then Obama will look so good and leader like, but in reality, this could have been done 2 years ago and we just wasted billions of tax payer dollars and wasted 2 years of the American peoples time. But hey…. elections have consequences. Again. 😦

  6. Good question.

    My impression has been that the Tea Party was making inroads, and maintaining its backbone in the face of Boehner, and therefore I could still support the Republican banner.

    I think they have been twisting Christie’s arm.

    Part of me wants to just walk away and let them steer the nation off a cliff. That will teach them.

    Part of me wants to get behind the politicians who are doing the right thing.

    • Justin,

      I can and will support the TEA Party. What is not being very well reported is that TEA Party candidates did significantly better than “moderate” or “liberal” Republicans this election. To me, that suggests it is time for the TEA Party to break from the Republican Party if for no other reason than to be able to maintain their purity and allegiance to their constituents.

  7. The party has been infiltrated with RINOS for quite some time now. I will never understand why Paul didn’t run as an Independent. Unfortunately, he doesn’t have the “it” factor. The “it” factor is what makes you popular on the View, David Letterman, and The Daily Show. You must understand that being on a cool show, playing golf, and having close to $1 million-dollar WH state dinners are but a few elements that constitute the “it” factor.

    This is why I am highly going to encourage the next winner of American Idol to run for office. Let’s face it; not only will they have the “it” factor, they will be able to sing, as well! I’m quite sure they would probably confuse the consitution with constipation, but they would have the “it” factor; just like our leader of the free world. Hey, when you got “it”, ya got “it”, right?

    Panem et circenses, parve.

    I shall give you my solution….

  8. Well Kells, you do have a bit of logic about you tonight. Honestly, why not? It’s not like they could really do worse, right?

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