It May Be Time to Consider the Jefferson Option


If this is true, or if it starts happening in many more States, then  it is time to exercise the Jefferson option:

A Form of Gun Confiscation Has Reportedly Begun in New York State — Here’s the Justification Being Used

Despite promises from the president and a host of other politicians who are pushing for more gun control that nobody is coming for your guns, the confiscation of guns and gun permits has apparently started in some form in New York State. One attorney representing several people who have been forced to surrender their guns spoke with TheBlaze and alerted us to some disturbing facts:

  • Gun owners are losing their 2nd Amendment rights without due process.
  • HIPAA Laws are likely being compromised and the 4th and 5th Amendments are being violated in some of these cases

How did confiscation start happening so quickly? Apparently the gun grabbing was triggered by something inside the NY SAFE Act — New York’s new gun law — that has a provision apparently mandating confiscation of weapons and permits if someone has been prescribed psychotropic drugs.

Do not let this reference to drug prescriptions fool you into accepting the argument of the tyrants.  You know full well that this is how they operate.  They start with something they can claim everyone should agree with; something they can easily paint anyone who disagrees with it as an extremist.  But then, they move to something else, and add something else until, eventually, everyone is covered by their restrictions.  It’s the “progressive” way, and you should know this old two-step by now.

However, just in case you do not see the danger in this story, read this one:

Colo. Sheriff Alleges Shock Training to TheBlaze: DHS-Bound Official Warned Against ‘Christians Who Take the Bible Literally’

On April 1, 2013 I attended training in La Junta, Colorado hosted by the Colorado State Patrol (CSP).  The training was from 12:00 pm to 4:00 pm and covered two topics, Sovereign Citizens, and Outlaw Motorcycle Gangs.  I was pretty familiar with motorcycle gangs but since we often deal with the so-called sovereign citizen groups I was interested to see what they had to say.  The group consisted of police officers, deputies, and CSP troopers.  There were about 20 people in attendance.

Trooper Joe Kluczynski taught a 2-hour section on sovereign citizens.  Kluczynski spent most of his two hours focusing on how, in his view and apparently the view of Homeland Security, people turn to the sovereign citizen movement.  Kluczynski started off by saying there are probably some sovereign citizens in this room and gave a generalized list of those groups that have sovereign citizen views.  Among those groups, Kluczynski had listed, were those who believe America was founded on godly principles, Christians who take the Bible literally, and “fundamentalists”.  Kluczynski did not explain what he meant by “fundamentalists” but from the context it was clear he was referring again to those who took the Bible literally or “too seriously.”

While Kluczynski emphasized that sovereign citizens have a right to their beliefs, he was clearly teaching that the groups he had listed should be watched by law enforcement and should be treated with caution because of their potential to assault law enforcement.  Kluczynski explained why he believed these groups were dangerous saying they were angry over the election of a black president.  When someone in the group suggested the failing economy was probably much more to blame, Kluczynski intimated that those who are not going along with the changes in America will need to be controlled by law enforcement.  Kluczynski even later questioned some of the troopers present if they were willing and prepared to confiscate “illegal” weapons if ordered to.

These are just excerpts.  You really need to read this entire piece.

Notice that, if you believe the truth, you are somehow a threat to this government.  The truth is, this nation was founded by men who were looking to the Bible for guidance and for the structure of our government.  This is not my opinion; it is a fact, an historical fact.  The founders said so, and one cannot argue with the original source:

According to his noted on the Second Constitutional Convention, Madison records that he found and proposed the three branches of our government in Isaiah 33:22:

“For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us.”

Again, written by his own hand, Madison records that the following debates lead to the adoption of three branches: the Executive (king), Legislative (law giver) and judiciary (judge).  But there’s more.  After the convention was over, Franklin was asked as to where the delegates had found the principles for this new Constitution and he replied that they came from:

“…those ancient texts, by which, I mean the scriptures.”

I could provide a similar quote from nearly every one of the men who signed the Declaration and/or the Constitution, but, if you are already among the ranks of people who have chosen to reject the truth, I doubt the facts will sway you.  You’ve already made up your mind and sealed it shut.

OK, so let’s allow for the possibility that “sovereign citizens” actually are the threat the government claims them to be (this is actually going out on a limb as the government has demonstrated it is more than willing to lie to us about such things).  This still paints every Christian who is serious about their faith as a threat.  Notice, this class did not say they were a “potential” threat; it asserts that anyone who “takes the Bible too seriously” is a threat.  That is more than half of this nation!  It also says that anyone who believes the truth – that this nation was founded on godly principles – is a threat.  So, if you believe the Bible and/or objective reality, you are a threat.

Friends, if you allow these people to disarm you, it is a short hop to the chamber.  The time is nearly at hand where you will have to make some tough decisions, but, if you know history, you will know that surrendering your weapon will not make you safe or protect you from your ultimate fate.  If they deem you a threat, all it will do is prolong the inevitable.  History screams the truth of my claim.  Do not reject its lessons and warnings.


I wrote this, then went to Drudge and look what I find: Biden ridiculing those who are expressing a reasonable and fully warranted concern about the growing tyranny of this government.  Just read the headlines:

'Black Helicopter Crowd is Really Upset'...

MOCKS: 'We're gonna swoop down with Special Forces folks and gather up every gun in America'...


Police Confiscating Firearms from People Taking Anti-anxiety Medication...



Here is a follow up to the original story in which the State responds to the Sheriff’s allegations:

‘He Misrepresented the Training Material’: Colorado State Patrol Goes After Sheriff Who Alleged Anti-Christian Training Session

“We regret that he misrepresented the training material in a way that clearly is not the position of the Colorado State Patrol,” the release concludes.

There’s only one problem with the State’s denial: we know that it probably does hold the position the Sheriff claims because we know – thanks to the work our own Texas has done here on the RNL – that DHS does consider “fundamentalist” Christians to be terrorist threats.  As we see in the headlines of the stories from the Drudge Report, the Administration holds this view, as well.  So why would a reasonable person believe the State in this case when all the evidence supports the Sheriff?

27 thoughts on “It May Be Time to Consider the Jefferson Option

  1. It is inevitable at this time. The final nail is already in the hand of the progressive coffin makers. It’s the Illegal Alien Amnesty Bill. Once it passes (with Republican help) the Republic is dead. The Progressives will have bought the votes needed to implement confiscation of most firearms.

    I urge all patriotic Americans living in Blue states to pack up and move to the Red core of America. We need your love of God, Country, morals, skills and votes to keep out the blue plague.

        • As well as preventing anyone else from being able to buy ammo because it’s all going to the Feds. Convenient that the law dictates a “federal govt. first” policy, huh?

          • And trying to get online and Private purchase of Ammo illegal…. for what ammo the Obama Private Army ( DHS) has already scarfed up.

        • Ammunition and 2,700 anti-IED Tanks …. all to be used in American Streets against American Veterans, Christians, and those who Believe inthe Bible literally and those who Believe in the Constitution as written, and believe this is supposed to be a Gov’t of the People , by the people and FOR the people.

  2. On the other hand …

    Several states are moving toward nullification of federal laws they deem unconstitutional. I know the bill under consideration in Alaska is designed to nullify federal laws that are unconstitutional. It’s being fast-tracked now that it’s passed the Senate. Blue staters who have red state sentiments should definitely consider moving because the lines of balkanization will be drawn along state lines, most likely. And, hopefully, we do it without killing.

    Heck, I’m hoping when they see just how serious this has become, they’ll be willing to see reason. Doubt it, but still praying for that.

  3. “they” is the obama regime, the democrats and republicans who are supporting ANYthing the Obamacrats are doing…

  4. We still have the right to free movement however, they will not allow it to continue once they realize the impact it could have on the majority of the states passing laws to refuse to accept unconstitutional dictates from the Federal Government. States like California are already exploring ways to confiscate wealth on the way out. All they have to do is impose a sales tax on property. Remember in Utopia (USSR, China, Plato’s Republic, Cuba) you do not have this freedom. You will loose it here as well if the Progressives get their way.

    If you live in a Blue State you know what’s coming. Higher taxes, more crime, communist indoctrination in all public schools, lower property values, and you have to put up with all the other ills of a Godless society. Get out now while you can.

    The Blue States will become your first Police States.

    • I wonder if those “Planning To Leave or Threatening to Leave” thinking this will somehow Change those in the Blue States because they would miss their tax base know how serious this is ??

      People like Trapped who have plans will probably get out …. but they may be the Last group to do so. Those just starting to talk about it now may be VERY unpleasantly surprised when they Finally try to act on their threats to leave.

    • Karl,

      I am not advocating offense force, which is what I suspect you read in my post. I am advancing self-0defense against YOU and people like YOU — who will use offensive force to impose their will on others.

      hey, you’ve already said you’re all for coercion, so no one is surprised by you foaming at the mouth over what you see as an opportunity to force your will on others. It’s just too bad you and so many in your camp are also cowards. You don’t have the intestinal fortitude to do your own dirty work. You always have to get some poor rube worked up enough to do it for you.

      • Joe Karl’s reponse comes from 2 sources.

        (1) The natural tendency of the Left of ALL stripes to resort to violence, in language, Legislation and Physical intimidation and finally street violence……..The Occupy Movement and the Video of the Ohio College Girl Vandalizing the Pro-Life property are two current examples.

        (2) The Historical record shows that Communism / Socialism ( as Fundamentally Transformative Policy) ALWAYS, ALWAYS starts with Violence led by the Greedy discontents like Karl and the Unions who use the Students as dupes.

        • Don,

          I know, but you and I can take solace in the fact that we know something else Karl doesn’t: once he helps them take over, he and his crowed are usually among the first casualties of their exalted leaders.

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