Greedy American Capitalists Actually More Generous Than The Euro Nanny State Proletariat

Who knew?

According to this study:

Benevolence: A European either living off or managing a nanny state would say that Americans’ contempt for welfare regimes is based on greed. But if Americans are so selfish, how can they be so charitable?

In no European economy are the people more generous with their own money than the people of the U.S. According to Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development data, which have been thoughtfully assembled by Cato scholar Dan Mitchell, the total of Americans’ voluntary social spending reached 10.2% of GDP in 2009, the latest year for which numbers are available.

The only country that is remotely close in its generosity is the Netherlands, where the total was 6% of the nation’s economy. Only two other nations, Canada and the United Kingdom, exceeded 5%. The U.K. totaled 5.3% of GDP, Canada 5.1%.

The rest hardly even register on the chart. The French totaled a mere 2.8%, the Germans 2%. Greece, Italy, Norway and Spain all failed to break the 2% mark.

So who’s selfish and who’s generous? Americans or the residents of what have become known as welfare states that promote dependency on government?

Naturally some will immediately say the Europeans don’t give as much because they, in essence, “give at the office” through their taxes.

Sounds plausible. But it doesn’t stand up to even light scrutiny. Again, we go to Mitchell.

“According to the OECD data,” he writes, “government redistributes 20% of GDP in America compared to an average of 21.9% of GDP for all OECD nations.”

So we do have a welfare state comparable in size to those in other nations known for their cradle-to-grave reliance on government, yet we still give more out of our pockets than the presumably left-of-center, we-take-care-of-the-poor Europeans.

Which makes us think: How much more would Americans give — and how much more effective would that benevolence be — if we had to hand over less to the government for redistribution?

Socialism, Marxism and communism is nothing but a way for the envious to feel good about themselves.

19 thoughts on “Greedy American Capitalists Actually More Generous Than The Euro Nanny State Proletariat

      • And just how many do that, and how many Americans hit up Canadian and europen health care systems? How many Americans now take ‘medical vacations to avoid our high costs? How in the hell have you been? LTNS!

        • idk how many people visit other countries. i work with several canadians who were opposed to their health care system because elective surgeries could take years to get scheduled. ie shoulder or knee surgery. gotta have a healthy body parts to work, not just a healthy heart, liver or kidney.

          i have been doing great. stopped by ellzeys the other day, no change there. 🙂

          • I haven’t thought of Ellzey’s in years! Are the prices still in the predatory range?
            Same here, on the greatness aspect of life. I retired in January, and have been catching up on my puttering.

            I heard the same about elctive surgeries in Britain, and friends there say the system is stingy pain relief medications. Part to stiff-upper-lip tradition, they say. Still, and one is an American who married a Brit, they say they prefer the british ,model to ours.
            In fact, I have yet to find anyone who would trade their system for ours.

            • ellzey’s prices have reflected inflation X about 3. i still think its a front for laundering. everything is over priced, has several weeks worth of dust layered on top, yet still in business.

              i see by the down thumbs your popularity has not changed much 🙂

              my thoughts on healthcare is this, if you care about your health you will take care of your body and seek a policy that suits you. i heard many yrs ago that men give up their health for wealth when they are younger and then give up their wealth for health when they are older. im not doing that, im trying to find balance. my time here on this earth is not guaranteed by anyone, government health care system or not. i am trying to build a legacy for my family and future children and hope that they have the same mentality. i refuse to give up everything i have worked for myself and my family to spend a few extra days shitting my diaper and rolling around walmart shopping for ensure and diapers that dont leak. better to burn out than fade away i guess.

              • Personal responsibility is a good thing. The lack of it is probably the single biggest reason for the demands put on our health system.
                We also have to deal with the crap being put in our food these days, and that is where personal responsibility butts up against corporate profitability. There are ten chemicals and ingredients that are in our food, that European countries will not allow.


                These are the ingredients that swell a ten year old’s breasts, among other signs of early puberty, and are implicated in the rising epidemic of ADD, ADHD, autism, chronic inflammation, etc.
                Did you know that commercial feed lots mix chicken shit into the cattle feed? They have to add cotton seed, which the cows like, in order to get them to eat the swill.
                We cannot all hit the woods and eat what we kill, a la Ted Nugent, so we need federal oversight of the food industry, as they don’t care a fig about us.
                I know this isn’t the subject of your letter, Tony, and I am sure that you understand that social responsibility is as important as the personal aspect, but thanks for the forum.

                • Lack of certain medications is a global issue, regardless of the healthcare system in place. Many of our analgesics come from countries not friendly to our political, social, or religious ideologies.

                  Personal responsibility is a pillar of the strain on our healthcare delivery system, and these outlandish strategies being placed in to law do nothing but add to the burden of taking care of those who would not otherwise take care of themselves.

                  Processed foods is an issue, and you are correct, very few can self-sustain in a way that allows them to avoid the additives in processed foods that solve a great many problems with processing, transporting, and providing a shelf-life for grocery store items. Technology is just not there yet.

                  I still do not share your thoughts on social responsibility for those who do not assume personal responsibility … and not out of a lack of care either. I do care about these people, or I would not do what I do for a living. Color me jaded, but it is damn sure deflating to see the same patients coming in for the same ailments, yet argue the treatment recommendations, and simply leave against medical advice … only to ultimately come back at some point with a crisis that could have been avoided long ago … with every bit of that history paid for by your nickel. 😦

                  • I was referring to the inspection process, Augger, not the medical treatment of deadbeats.
                    I see no better reason for a federal government, besides, defense, than the oversight of our food industry.

                    • Yes, I understand. The fault here is mine for your confusion. I read yours, and Tony’s last few posts, and bundled my responses in to one consolidated response without giving you the benefit of knowing that by stating as such. My bad.

                    • And I can understand your frustration. I recently saw a woman riding in one of Wal-Mart’s fatmobiles, evidence of her corpulence billowing out of the clothes she wore, and beyond the confines of the vehicle, nearly blocking the candy aisle, where she was solving the snickers-or-butterfingers dilemma by choosing a bag of both. Coming soon to a ward near you…..

      • My Canadian cousins have been coming to US for years to quickly get medical tests they would have to wait months for in Canada.

  1. i was previously married to a girl from the czech republic. we once had a conversation about american donations to the czech’s when they had flooding that devastated the country in the 90’s. she said that the americans ONLY gave their country 15 million to help them recover from the flooding. she was angry at US because we gave so little. now this was just conversation and i never researched the data, i asked what had other countries done to help them? she could not remember, but could only remember that the americans gave so little. i retorted, ‘if the americans had given her country 2 fucking pennies it would have been above our obligation. any amount given is generosity, whether it be 1 dollar or 15 million. show some goddamned gratitude cunt’ alas, we are no longer married.

    true story. i will now go and research flooding of cz and try to find donations per country. czech back later folks.

    tony out

  2. I remember that Namibia, one of the poorest countries on Earth, donated a larger percentage of their GNP to Haiti than many countries.
    Yes, i agree that we are generous as a people, no question about it.

  3. I believe the scope of this topic is around domestic charity, and not foreign charity. I cannot help but wonder if that percentage is calculated off cash donations only, and if so, how much does that number rise once goods and services donated, are added in.

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